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Alright, I've re-read all of them and I still can't find one that stands on its own as a legitimate complaint.

hathym 11y ago
"My manager, who was the general manager, wanted to fire two of my developers. His tactic for firing the senior developer was to make the senior developer role redundant and offering the dev a junior developer role instead." I didn't read it all, but I think this one can be described as poor treatment against the author's coworker
- repomies691 11y ago
  Difficult to comment on with these light details, but is firing also poor treatment? Sometimes companies need to fire, for whatever reasons. I think it is good if some other role is offered instead. "His tactic for firing the senior developer was to make the senior developer role redundant" How do you make a role redundant? Usually it is about what the business needs, the people inside the company don't make roles needed or redundant, but the business and how it develops defines the needs for varying roles. For example, if customers suddenly stop buying and decide to go ellewhere, everyone inside the company can be considered redundant.
  - spacecowboy_lon 11y ago
    Um no in theory its the role that is redundant not the person it helps avoid accusations of unfairness in the redundancy process - yes i know that this can and is abused.
  - hathym 11y ago
    putting an employee in a closet in a hope to destroy its moral and force him to quit on his own? poor treatment is a light description IMHO.
    - jschwartzi 11y ago
      I wish I worked in a closet. Then at least I wouldn't have people looking at my screens all day.
  - vacri 11y ago
    Unless the law has changed recently, if you make someone redundant in Australia (where the author is from), you can't fill the role again for 6 months (I think it's 6 mo) - ie: it's illegal to use "the role is redundant now" to fire someone and immediately fill the role again, which includes promotion-from-within. Of all the excuses you can use to fire someone, that one you actually have to mean. Of course, you can work around the law by having the same duties performed by someone with a different (scare-quotes) "role".
- catmanjan 11y ago
  Is it? Maybe the company couldnt afford to support the role or it was just no longer needed - nothing to imply it was done malicously. Poor treatment would have been making the role redundant and not offering him a job at all.
3minus1 11y ago
Saying "you clearly don’t understand this feature, do you?" in front of everyone is a straight dick-move. Whoever said that should go back to kindergarten and learn how you're supposed to treat people.

"My manager, who was the general manager, wanted to fire two of my developers. His tactic for firing the senior developer was to make the senior developer role redundant and offering the dev a junior developer role instead." I didn't read it all, but I think this one can be described as poor treatment against the author's coworker

repomies691 11y ago
Difficult to comment on with these light details, but is firing also poor treatment? Sometimes companies need to fire, for whatever reasons. I think it is good if some other role is offered instead. "His tactic for firing the senior developer was to make the senior developer role redundant" How do you make a role redundant? Usually it is about what the business needs, the people inside the company don't make roles needed or redundant, but the business and how it develops defines the needs for varying roles. For example, if customers suddenly stop buying and decide to go ellewhere, everyone inside the company can be considered redundant.
- spacecowboy_lon 11y ago
  Um no in theory its the role that is redundant not the person it helps avoid accusations of unfairness in the redundancy process - yes i know that this can and is abused.
- hathym 11y ago
  putting an employee in a closet in a hope to destroy its moral and force him to quit on his own? poor treatment is a light description IMHO.
  - jschwartzi 11y ago
    I wish I worked in a closet. Then at least I wouldn't have people looking at my screens all day.
- vacri 11y ago
  Unless the law has changed recently, if you make someone redundant in Australia (where the author is from), you can't fill the role again for 6 months (I think it's 6 mo) - ie: it's illegal to use "the role is redundant now" to fire someone and immediately fill the role again, which includes promotion-from-within. Of all the excuses you can use to fire someone, that one you actually have to mean. Of course, you can work around the law by having the same duties performed by someone with a different (scare-quotes) "role".
catmanjan 11y ago
Is it? Maybe the company couldnt afford to support the role or it was just no longer needed - nothing to imply it was done malicously. Poor treatment would have been making the role redundant and not offering him a job at all.

3minus1 11y ago

Saying "you clearly don’t understand this feature, do you?" in front of everyone is a straight dick-move. Whoever said that should go back to kindergarten and learn how you're supposed to treat people.