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I'm sure we have all had terrible bosses. I have probably had one of the worst bosses you could imagine. Quitting that job was one of the best days of my life

by lujim 11y ago

I'm sure we have all had terrible bosses. I have probably had one of the worst bosses you could imagine. Quitting that job was one of the best days of my life. However it still isn't a persons birthright or written anywhere in the constitution that you have only have to work for people you like. If you want to avoid bad bosses you need to learn a skill that makes you highly sought after or be self employed.

rm_-rf_slash 11y ago
It's not about not having to work for an asshole, it's about being protected from abusive business practices. Not everyone can afford lawyers to sue bosses that made them work overtime without overtime pay, for example. Usually the people who need worker protections the most are the ones being abused the most, for the same reason: they are poor and have no other choice. They have no union and their cases are usually too small-fry to be worth it. >If you want to avoid bad bosses you need to learn a skill that makes you highly sought after or be self employed. Ha! Good one. Now let's all gather around a campfire and talk about how our tech giant/startup employer had us working insane hours because "crunch time" or "demonstrate culture fit". You can even add your own! Don't forget to mention prohibitive cost of living in tech hubs and the mountain of student debt you accumulated so you could have a "skill that makes you highly sought after." :)
- lujim 11y ago
  I've worked in an industry that is notorious for long hours, low pay, high cost of entry, and have even had coworkers get killed on the job. Not 6 hours after my coworker was killed I was asked if I was ok to keep working (my normal 14+ hour shift in shotty dangerous equipment). So I've seen abusive business practices. You know what I did. I went to another place. When that one sucked too, I retooled went into web development. I don't work in an expensive tech town or long hours and I didn't take on student a penny of loan debt. Not everyone needs a 100k CS degree and to move straight out to San Fran to be useful or productive and there are plenty of things someone can do (plumber, electrician, skilled trades of whatever kind) without shelling out 100k for a degree.
filoeleven 11y ago
Wouldn't a basic income tend to increase self-employment? It lowers the barrier to striking out on one's own, I would think, at least in fields like ours that don't cost a lot to spin up.
- lujim 11y ago
  Yeah probably. I think healthcare is a bigger barrier there, but yeah if you had time and a small amount of guaranteed money I'm sure more people would give it a shot.
jimbokun 11y ago
Also nothing in the Constitution banning a basic income program.
- lujim 11y ago
  True. The Constitution doesn't explicitly ban a lot of things.

by lujim 11y ago

rm_-rf_slash 11y ago

It's not about not having to work for an asshole, it's about being protected from abusive business practices. Not everyone can afford lawyers to sue bosses that made them work overtime without overtime pay, for example. Usually the people who need worker protections the most are the ones being abused the most, for the same reason: they are poor and have no other choice. They have no union and their cases are usually too small-fry to be worth it. >If you want to avoid bad bosses you need to learn a skill that makes you highly sought after or be self employed. Ha! Good one. Now let's all gather around a campfire and talk about how our tech giant/startup employer had us working insane hours because "crunch time" or "demonstrate culture fit". You can even add your own! Don't forget to mention prohibitive cost of living in tech hubs and the mountain of student debt you accumulated so you could have a "skill that makes you highly sought after." :)

lujim 11y ago
I've worked in an industry that is notorious for long hours, low pay, high cost of entry, and have even had coworkers get killed on the job. Not 6 hours after my coworker was killed I was asked if I was ok to keep working (my normal 14+ hour shift in shotty dangerous equipment). So I've seen abusive business practices. You know what I did. I went to another place. When that one sucked too, I retooled went into web development. I don't work in an expensive tech town or long hours and I didn't take on student a penny of loan debt. Not everyone needs a 100k CS degree and to move straight out to San Fran to be useful or productive and there are plenty of things someone can do (plumber, electrician, skilled trades of whatever kind) without shelling out 100k for a degree.

filoeleven 11y ago

Wouldn't a basic income tend to increase self-employment? It lowers the barrier to striking out on one's own, I would think, at least in fields like ours that don't cost a lot to spin up.

lujim 11y ago
Yeah probably. I think healthcare is a bigger barrier there, but yeah if you had time and a small amount of guaranteed money I'm sure more people would give it a shot.

jimbokun 11y ago

Also nothing in the Constitution banning a basic income program.

lujim 11y ago
True. The Constitution doesn't explicitly ban a lot of things.