3 ms·

> If a situation is causing no problems outside of depression/anxiety, and you took away the depression/anxiety mechanism, there would be nothing wrong with it.

> If a situation is causing no problems outside of depression/anxiety, and you took away the depression/anxiety mechanism, there would be nothing wrong with it. My experience with SSRI's has been that taking away that mechanism is taking away creativity, emotional range, and introspective ability. Reality distortion is reality distortion. I reject procrustean medicine that fits humans to the mold of what is best for society, which is the primary environment in which anxiety/depression originate.

Dylan16807 11y ago
> My experience with SSRI's has been that taking away that mechanism is taking away creativity, emotional range, and introspective ability. I'm not talking about SSRI's, I mean a theoretical way of removing only depression and the similar kinds of chronic anxiety. You can be very creative and introspective without being actively depressed. > Reality distortion is reality distortion. It's depression that distorts reality, even to the point of making you feel negative emotions that you know aren't true but can't stop. > I reject procrustean medicine that fits humans to the mold of what is best for society, which is the primary environment in which anxiety/depression originate. That's great. Me too. But that's really a different issue. You could fix that entirely, and you'd still have people hurt by depression.
- danharaj 11y ago
  What i'm suggesting is that its perhaps not even a coherent idea that one can remove depression without harming a person's mind in negative ways in the general case. There are some people who make fantastic recoveries with modern pharmaceutical treatments for mental disorders, but there are many who pay a steeper cost. I'm well aware of how distorting depression is. I've been nearly bed-ridden for days at the worst of times. I am equally well aware of how distorting the pharmaceutical treatments for depression can be. It is like trying to correct a distorted mirror by putting a distorted lens in front of it for many people. Some people have mental disorders that respond perfectly to purely pharmaceutical treatment. I don't know how many, but i doubt it's a majority or even a significant minority.
mudetroit 11y ago
That can fall amongst their side-effects, but it doesn't have to be. If you are experiencing them you should absolutely discuss that with your doctor, and whether the side-effects are tolerable at the level they are at. They also don't distort reality, they raise the level of serotonin in your brain. Now on the opposite side we do not have a fundamental understanding of how any of that works. For instance, the serotonin levels in the brain of a healthy person might be lower than those of someone suffering from depression. We simply don't have the knowledge know why things are happening specifically. Speaking from personal experience, which is all I can really do given that I am not a medical professional, they brought be back to a basic level of functionality. In direct regards to what you had mentioned they didn't take away creativity, emotional range, or introspective ability, quite the opposite in fact. Before I began treatment I was rapidly falling towards not ever leaving my room and hiding from people all the time. I am not saying they are for everyone. I just want to point out that we all need to be careful assigning our experiences to others on this.

Dylan16807 11y ago

> My experience with SSRI's has been that taking away that mechanism is taking away creativity, emotional range, and introspective ability. I'm not talking about SSRI's, I mean a theoretical way of removing only depression and the similar kinds of chronic anxiety. You can be very creative and introspective without being actively depressed. > Reality distortion is reality distortion. It's depression that distorts reality, even to the point of making you feel negative emotions that you know aren't true but can't stop. > I reject procrustean medicine that fits humans to the mold of what is best for society, which is the primary environment in which anxiety/depression originate. That's great. Me too. But that's really a different issue. You could fix that entirely, and you'd still have people hurt by depression.

danharaj 11y ago
What i'm suggesting is that its perhaps not even a coherent idea that one can remove depression without harming a person's mind in negative ways in the general case. There are some people who make fantastic recoveries with modern pharmaceutical treatments for mental disorders, but there are many who pay a steeper cost. I'm well aware of how distorting depression is. I've been nearly bed-ridden for days at the worst of times. I am equally well aware of how distorting the pharmaceutical treatments for depression can be. It is like trying to correct a distorted mirror by putting a distorted lens in front of it for many people. Some people have mental disorders that respond perfectly to purely pharmaceutical treatment. I don't know how many, but i doubt it's a majority or even a significant minority.

mudetroit 11y ago

That can fall amongst their side-effects, but it doesn't have to be. If you are experiencing them you should absolutely discuss that with your doctor, and whether the side-effects are tolerable at the level they are at. They also don't distort reality, they raise the level of serotonin in your brain. Now on the opposite side we do not have a fundamental understanding of how any of that works. For instance, the serotonin levels in the brain of a healthy person might be lower than those of someone suffering from depression. We simply don't have the knowledge know why things are happening specifically. Speaking from personal experience, which is all I can really do given that I am not a medical professional, they brought be back to a basic level of functionality. In direct regards to what you had mentioned they didn't take away creativity, emotional range, or introspective ability, quite the opposite in fact. Before I began treatment I was rapidly falling towards not ever leaving my room and hiding from people all the time. I am not saying they are for everyone. I just want to point out that we all need to be careful assigning our experiences to others on this.