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I'm not a psychologist or have received any other professional training in this direction but really I think there are two types of depression. - Clinical depr

by rsp1984 11y ago

I'm not a psychologist or have received any other professional training in this direction but really I think there are two types of depression. - Clinical depression. The disease type that for many "comes out of nowhere" and paralyzes people to the point where they can't leave bed any more. I'd venture to say it's the minority of cases but the author may be wrong in putting them in the same group as the... - Symptom depression. That's what I think the author is talking about and what I think is the majority of cases. People who work a lot call it "burn-out". Those affected can still function in daily live but quality of life is still pretty poor. It's probably a mistake to put the first kind in the same class as the second kind. However I think it is a far bigger mistake to treat the second kind like the first kind and that's I think what the author was trying to say (and I would very much agree with it).

dgudkov 11y ago
Clinical depression is frequently caused by extreme emotional long-term fatigue which is self-sustained because of not identified and fixed issues that cause the depression. So it's not a pathology, it's just very extreme fatigue. To make an analogy -- loosing weight because of not eating is not a pathology. Fix nutrition and you will stop losing weight. But if you don't fix it -- you can get into a very severe condition. Again, not because of some pathology, but because of malnutrition.
- superuser2 11y ago
  What we hear when you say >it's not a pathology is that the medical establishment ought to respond to those who approach it in immense pain by saying, "this is working as expected, go away." To use your analogy, if a patient presents with a problematic degree of weight loss, the appropriate response is not "yeah, that's what happens when you don't eat, bye." It's to figure out why they aren't eating, and how to get them to eat. Loss of appetite is a symptom of all sorts of pathologies, from an obsession with mass-media standards of beauty to all sorts of fun physical disorders, and a doctor would investigate these avenues and resolve whatever is responsible so that the patient starts eating again.

by rsp1984 11y ago

dgudkov 11y ago

Clinical depression is frequently caused by extreme emotional long-term fatigue which is self-sustained because of not identified and fixed issues that cause the depression. So it's not a pathology, it's just very extreme fatigue. To make an analogy -- loosing weight because of not eating is not a pathology. Fix nutrition and you will stop losing weight. But if you don't fix it -- you can get into a very severe condition. Again, not because of some pathology, but because of malnutrition.

superuser2 11y ago
What we hear when you say >it's not a pathology is that the medical establishment ought to respond to those who approach it in immense pain by saying, "this is working as expected, go away." To use your analogy, if a patient presents with a problematic degree of weight loss, the appropriate response is not "yeah, that's what happens when you don't eat, bye." It's to figure out why they aren't eating, and how to get them to eat. Loss of appetite is a symptom of all sorts of pathologies, from an obsession with mass-media standards of beauty to all sorts of fun physical disorders, and a doctor would investigate these avenues and resolve whatever is responsible so that the patient starts eating again.