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>$2200 in a PC and a Rift, or $100 that clips on your phone (assuming you're on Samsung)? Your figures are a little off. A rift is (all following figures in US

>$2200 in a PC and a Rift, or $100 that clips on your phone (assuming you're on Samsung)? Your figures are a little off. A rift is (all following figures in USD) $599, and a computer that will support it is generally quoted at $950, making it's package price $1550. You can buy bundles that include a Rift and an Oculus ready PC for $1499[1]. The gear VR only works with very recent phones, and only works on all games without heat problems on the S7. S7's are generally quoted at $700, making the package price $800. Rough figures, I know, but yours are well out of whack. [1] http://www.techtimes.com/articles/134240/20160217/oculus-ready-pcs-and-rift-bundles-now-available-for-preorder-at-amazon-best-buy-and-microsoft-store.htm http://www.techtimes.com/articles/134240/20160217/oculus-rea...

nawitus 11y ago
What game causes heat problems on the S6?
- Sir_Substance 11y ago
  https://forums.oculus.com/community/discussion/27568/consumer-vr-s6-heat-issue https://forums.oculus.com/community/discussion/27568/consume... https://www.reddit.com/r/GearVR/comments/3vlsad/is_the_overheating_problem_that_widespread/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GearVR/comments/3vlsad/is_the_overh...
- mzs 11y ago
  It becomes even more of a problem when placed into an enclosure that mostly traps the head of your head and the phone itself.
- smacktoward 11y ago
  Just about any of them, or playing video, or really using the device in Gear VR mode at all. I generally started getting the cool-down-please warnings after about a half hour of use, regardless of what apps I was running. Source: I have an S6 and Gear VR.
  - nawitus 11y ago
    I haven't had these problems.
MBCook 11y ago
I was under the impression you needed a $1500 PC. So I'll give you that. I'm assuming you're not buying the phone but that you already have one. People still get them with subsidies too. The point is that for someone who wants to dip their toes and had a recent Samsung phone the Gear is DRASTICALLY cheaper. If you have a PS4 (or even if you don't) then the PS VR is cheaper too. For people who aren't already committed to VR, I think Fowler is right that the Rift is way too much at this point. Give it time.
- wlesieutre 11y ago
  > The point is that for someone who wants to dip their toes and had a recent Samsung phone the Gear is DRASTICALLY cheaper. If you have a PS4 (or even if you don't) then the PS VR is cheaper too. And on the other end of that, I have a GTX 970 but my phone is from Sony and I don't own a console. If I want to get into VR, the Rift is my cheapest option. Different target markets - the Gear is aimed at the general public with Samsung phones, the Rift is aimed at PC gamers with gaming PCs. Sure, some people will buy a slightly better rig or upgrade sooner than they would have otherwise, but fundamentally it's targeting people who are going to own a gaming computer anyway. I'd guess that the people buying a Rift + PC bundle as their first PC gaming setup will be doing it after trying one on in person to evaluate it. It'll happen, but it'll be a slower push driven by word of mouth.
  - MBCook 11y ago
    > the Gear is aimed at the general public with Samsung phones, the Rift is aimed at PC gamers with gaming PCs And the article is aimed at the general public, not gamers. That's why there is nothing wrong with Fowler's analysis. I'm not arguing that the Gear is going to give the best experience of all solutions, I was defending Fowler's point.
    - wlesieutre 11y ago
      > And the article is aimed at the general public, not gamers. That's why there is nothing wrong with Fowler's analysis. I think we agree, but it feels like he's writing an article proclaiming "Tesla Roadster Isn’t Ready for the Mainstream" just because Elon Musk said that electric cars are going to be a transformational technology. If the big takeaway of the article is "Bleeding edge product that isn't intended for the general public isn't ready for the general public" then I'm right on board with him.
loopbit 11y ago
On the other hand, you have to consider ISP deals. I've just got the S7 plus the Gear VR for 200 euros. Way cheaper than any option that includes the Rift.

nawitus 11y ago

What game causes heat problems on the S6?

Sir_Substance 11y ago
https://forums.oculus.com/community/discussion/27568/consumer-vr-s6-heat-issue https://forums.oculus.com/community/discussion/27568/consume... https://www.reddit.com/r/GearVR/comments/3vlsad/is_the_overheating_problem_that_widespread/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GearVR/comments/3vlsad/is_the_overh...
mzs 11y ago
It becomes even more of a problem when placed into an enclosure that mostly traps the head of your head and the phone itself.
smacktoward 11y ago
Just about any of them, or playing video, or really using the device in Gear VR mode at all. I generally started getting the cool-down-please warnings after about a half hour of use, regardless of what apps I was running. Source: I have an S6 and Gear VR.
- nawitus 11y ago
  I haven't had these problems.

MBCook 11y ago

I was under the impression you needed a $1500 PC. So I'll give you that. I'm assuming you're not buying the phone but that you already have one. People still get them with subsidies too. The point is that for someone who wants to dip their toes and had a recent Samsung phone the Gear is DRASTICALLY cheaper. If you have a PS4 (or even if you don't) then the PS VR is cheaper too. For people who aren't already committed to VR, I think Fowler is right that the Rift is way too much at this point. Give it time.

wlesieutre 11y ago
> The point is that for someone who wants to dip their toes and had a recent Samsung phone the Gear is DRASTICALLY cheaper. If you have a PS4 (or even if you don't) then the PS VR is cheaper too. And on the other end of that, I have a GTX 970 but my phone is from Sony and I don't own a console. If I want to get into VR, the Rift is my cheapest option. Different target markets - the Gear is aimed at the general public with Samsung phones, the Rift is aimed at PC gamers with gaming PCs. Sure, some people will buy a slightly better rig or upgrade sooner than they would have otherwise, but fundamentally it's targeting people who are going to own a gaming computer anyway. I'd guess that the people buying a Rift + PC bundle as their first PC gaming setup will be doing it after trying one on in person to evaluate it. It'll happen, but it'll be a slower push driven by word of mouth.
- MBCook 11y ago
  > the Gear is aimed at the general public with Samsung phones, the Rift is aimed at PC gamers with gaming PCs And the article is aimed at the general public, not gamers. That's why there is nothing wrong with Fowler's analysis. I'm not arguing that the Gear is going to give the best experience of all solutions, I was defending Fowler's point.
  - wlesieutre 11y ago
    > And the article is aimed at the general public, not gamers. That's why there is nothing wrong with Fowler's analysis. I think we agree, but it feels like he's writing an article proclaiming "Tesla Roadster Isn’t Ready for the Mainstream" just because Elon Musk said that electric cars are going to be a transformational technology. If the big takeaway of the article is "Bleeding edge product that isn't intended for the general public isn't ready for the general public" then I'm right on board with him.

loopbit 11y ago

On the other hand, you have to consider ISP deals. I've just got the S7 plus the Gear VR for 200 euros. Way cheaper than any option that includes the Rift.