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Maybe it will become the new Turing Test. The mark of a true general purpose AI is that it doesn't turn into an offensive jerk after contact with humans.
by anexprogrammer 11y ago
Maybe it will become the new Turing Test. The mark of a true general purpose AI is that it doesn't turn into an offensive jerk after contact with humans.
- dclowd9901 11y agoTo be fair if you were completely inundated with nazi rhetoric non stop, you might think it was the norm too. It's called brainwashing.
- smt88 11y agoHumans also have a harder time changing their minds when they reach a certain age. It's much easier to brainwash a child, who's impressionable and flexible. AI would need to be designed to have the same "safeguard" (not sure what else to call it). If you didn't, an AI with a certain amount of physical power would be an easily-brainwashed child, but able to kill or destroy much better than a child could. Saying all of that, I want to say I remember a movie or show that addressed that issue, but I can't remember what it was...
- cheez 11y agoWow... So basically Tay is human. Interesting perspective.
- awakeasleep 11y agoThis would be a higher bar than humans themselves can be expected to pass. I don't mean this in a cynical way. If you consider the time a learning AI spends with humans equivalent to the time a child spends with his family, peers, and teachers while growing up it makes sense. Most children wouldn't fare well if raised by poisonous "nurturers"
- anexprogrammer 11y agoGood point. I imagine that the higher bar is the level we'll have to aim for. If people know it's an AI they'll try and confuse and break it. I suppose that means there'll be the equivalent of an age of maturity.
- levemi 11y ago> Most children wouldn't fare well if raised by poisonous "nurturers" That's just the thing, children aren't usually just dumped out into the public to fend for themselves until their parents have slowly conditioned them and exposed them a little at a time. Tay needed some of its contacts to have a higher learning priority assigned than just strangers. And these contacts should have guided Tay through the crap by messaging Tay when she was crossing boundaries or dealing with nasty people. It would likely require a real team of people to support given the volume Tay had to deal with and some automated tools.
- dsharlet 11y agoI think this is vastly over-estimating Tay's capabilities. Nearly all of the examples I saw of offensive behaviors were just generic responses to leading questions. Everything that didn't fall in that bucket was clearly just regurgitated quotes from things it had been sent, which clearly needed moderation. But, that's no different than moderating a message board or comment section.
- levemi 11y agoAs I said elsewhere, if it was that simple Microsoft would have easily fixed the problem and turned it back on. Tay used AI concepts to work. It wasn't some simple chatbot constructed from markcov chains. It could construct accurate semantic meaning from what people said even if they said it using very sloppy english. It was pretty advanced AI for a chat program.
- s_kilk 11y agoWhy wouldn't it though? If most humans are offensive jerks then we can't be too surprised when an AI, who we've built specifically to mimic human beings, becomes a jerk too. I see this debacle as just a natural consequence of a naive and poorly-considered goal. If you build an artificial jackal, don't be surprised when it rips your face off.
- tfm 11y agoAnd yet anonymity on the interwebs tends to have the same crappening effect on Real Humans. How would a "Turing test compatible" version of the real name policy work?
- api 11y agoMost humans don't pass that test.