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I like the concepts presented here but I cannot shake off the feeling that OS X is pretty much never going to get the love it deserves from Apple. Apple will j

I like the concepts presented here but I cannot shake off the feeling that OS X is pretty much never going to get the love it deserves from Apple. Apple will just keep improving iOS to be more powerful, more flexible and so on. The iPad Pro with iOS 9 is just a rough draft, it will be iOS 10 or 11 that'll show the hardware off, at least I hope. iOS 9 was probably the biggest jump in productivity for the iPads and hopefully, Apple keeps it going from now on, not neglecting it like it did prior to iOS 9.

frou_dh 11y ago
Well the Mac has had a lot of love poured into it over all these years to get it to where it is today. I enjoy using the Mac in its present incarnation immensely.
- api 11y ago
  Could we have with OSX a... gasp... stable platform that is just really good at doing desktop type work? IOS would have to evolve a lot and in many ways to take over desktop. Maybe it will. Android N seems to be moving there so maybe that's the future.
  - Kristine1975 11y ago
    You mean a second Snow Leopard that just fixes bugs and adds overall polish? Yes please!
    - icedchai 11y ago
      Isn't that pretty much all of the recent OS X releases? What major features did El Capitan add? Yosemite? Mavericks? I can't think of a single major thing. At one point they finally got multi monitor support working properly, but I forget when.
      - riffraff 11y ago
        snow leopard had big performance improvements compared to its predecessor, I am not sure the latest releases had that.
      - Kristine1975 11y ago
        Mavericks finally brought support for OpenGL 4.1. But granted, that's not something most users will notice. Also it removed some skeuomorphism, which depending on whether you like it or not counts as a major feature ;-)
    - kalleboo 11y ago
      El Capitan was that for me.... Mavericks and Yosemite were all kinds of buggy, to the point where I was rebooting once a week due to hard-to-pin-down slowdowns, but at the last time I rebooted El Capitan due to an OS update, I had 40 days of uptime.
mark_l_watson 11y ago
I agree with you that Apple probably sees iOS as their future. I am not sure that I care too much. I do have and old Macbook Air and an even older Macbook Pro that I get a lot of service out of, but I am also good with using Linux on two other laptops. For developers I think the future is cloud based web dev setups anyway. I really like kicking off a large build or run on a remote server and not have it heat up my laptop. For different purposes, having a few beefed-up VPSs available and services like nitrous is more convenient. That said, developing in Emacs or vi in SSH term windows lacks some convenience, so it having deep integration of IDEs like IntelliJ with your own server build processes would be interesting (and even more interesting to also have great iOS and Android support). EDIT: more on the topic of OSX: I much prefer the small continuous update process that OSX and Windows 10 seem to be taking. I use Ubunutu and I often think that I would prefer small continuous updates than 6 month drops - at least for laptop use.

frou_dh 11y ago

Well the Mac has had a lot of love poured into it over all these years to get it to where it is today. I enjoy using the Mac in its present incarnation immensely.

api 11y ago
Could we have with OSX a... gasp... stable platform that is just really good at doing desktop type work? IOS would have to evolve a lot and in many ways to take over desktop. Maybe it will. Android N seems to be moving there so maybe that's the future.
- Kristine1975 11y ago
  You mean a second Snow Leopard that just fixes bugs and adds overall polish? Yes please!
  - icedchai 11y ago
    Isn't that pretty much all of the recent OS X releases? What major features did El Capitan add? Yosemite? Mavericks? I can't think of a single major thing. At one point they finally got multi monitor support working properly, but I forget when.
    - riffraff 11y ago
      snow leopard had big performance improvements compared to its predecessor, I am not sure the latest releases had that.
    - Kristine1975 11y ago
      Mavericks finally brought support for OpenGL 4.1. But granted, that's not something most users will notice. Also it removed some skeuomorphism, which depending on whether you like it or not counts as a major feature ;-)
  - kalleboo 11y ago
    El Capitan was that for me.... Mavericks and Yosemite were all kinds of buggy, to the point where I was rebooting once a week due to hard-to-pin-down slowdowns, but at the last time I rebooted El Capitan due to an OS update, I had 40 days of uptime.

mark_l_watson 11y ago

I agree with you that Apple probably sees iOS as their future. I am not sure that I care too much. I do have and old Macbook Air and an even older Macbook Pro that I get a lot of service out of, but I am also good with using Linux on two other laptops. For developers I think the future is cloud based web dev setups anyway. I really like kicking off a large build or run on a remote server and not have it heat up my laptop. For different purposes, having a few beefed-up VPSs available and services like nitrous is more convenient. That said, developing in Emacs or vi in SSH term windows lacks some convenience, so it having deep integration of IDEs like IntelliJ with your own server build processes would be interesting (and even more interesting to also have great iOS and Android support). EDIT: more on the topic of OSX: I much prefer the small continuous update process that OSX and Windows 10 seem to be taking. I use Ubunutu and I often think that I would prefer small continuous updates than 6 month drops - at least for laptop use.