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Likewise (rural midwest US), it has always seemed to be one of those TV fictions.

by lfowles 11y ago

overdrivetg 11y ago
Wow, I moved around the US every 3 or 4 years growing up and saw this as a very predictable, common pattern. Although I guess I was mainly in larger cities/schools...
- lfowles 11y ago
  It probably does have something to do with school size, perhaps my class wasn't big enough to support the distinct cliques required (graduating class ~20).
  - epimetheus 11y ago
    It's probably that, I grew up in the Midwest in a rural school district (outside the school district of a ~100k population city) - we had a 400 or so graduating class though. This was early to mid 90s, and it was pretty standard through the 80s too, at least for me. In the mid 90s I fell into a grunge group and they were a bad influence. Instead of getting bullied about being a nerd, it switched to that, and taunts about blowing my brains out with a shotgun (around the time that happened) were pretty common. Edit: to add this perspective though, my wife went to school in a relatively small town (Rolla, MO) and also had a 400 or so graduating class, but she claims ignorance of any sort of nerd bullying and thought it was a TV trope only thing too. She graduated in 2002. Maybe something changed between those dates?
  - azernik 11y ago
    I also didn't see nerd-bullying, coming from a 500-student-per-grade public school in West LA. Admittedly, it was unrepresentative in other ways: one third Ashkenazi Jewish, one third Persian Jewish, one third mostly-white-and-Asian other, very high population of affluent immigrants. We were plugged in to American pop culture, but I think we were isolated in some senses. Little to no idolization of the sports teams, for example.
  - bsenftner 11y ago
    I went to two Midwest high schools in the late 70's early 80's, one was large (5,000 students) and the other was tiny (17 in my class). Both schools had bullies, but the smaller private school had bullies with behavior far in excess of the large public school. The larger school had bullies that would fight each other and protect some nerds they liked or knew, while the smaller school was not diverse enough, so the few bullies had nothing to stop them, and they went way, way too far.
- Jtsummers 11y ago
  Were you the nerd being beat up/bullied or did you just witness it at different schools? I also moved around a bit and got bullied. It was a lot more about being the new kid than being a nerd. Being a nerd was just what they used to taunt me.
  - overdrivetg 11y ago
    I was that nerd, although admittedly I was only in one real fight (in grade school) and I didn't have too many problems beyond that. [edit] I guess I didn't see too much actual violent fighting otherwise beyond (I guess) normal making fun of / pushing around of nerds, although I did see a few fights between girls and some involving more metalhead/burnout types (in case anyone is familiar with the John Hughes High Schooler taxonomy)

Likewise (rural midwest US), it has always seemed to be one of those TV fictions.

by lfowles 11y ago

Likewise (rural midwest US), it has always seemed to be one of those TV fictions.

Wow, I moved around the US every 3 or 4 years growing up and saw this as a very predictable, common pattern. Although I guess I was mainly in larger cities/schools...

lfowles 11y ago
It probably does have something to do with school size, perhaps my class wasn't big enough to support the distinct cliques required (graduating class ~20).
- epimetheus 11y ago
  It's probably that, I grew up in the Midwest in a rural school district (outside the school district of a ~100k population city) - we had a 400 or so graduating class though. This was early to mid 90s, and it was pretty standard through the 80s too, at least for me. In the mid 90s I fell into a grunge group and they were a bad influence. Instead of getting bullied about being a nerd, it switched to that, and taunts about blowing my brains out with a shotgun (around the time that happened) were pretty common. Edit: to add this perspective though, my wife went to school in a relatively small town (Rolla, MO) and also had a 400 or so graduating class, but she claims ignorance of any sort of nerd bullying and thought it was a TV trope only thing too. She graduated in 2002. Maybe something changed between those dates?
- azernik 11y ago
  I also didn't see nerd-bullying, coming from a 500-student-per-grade public school in West LA. Admittedly, it was unrepresentative in other ways: one third Ashkenazi Jewish, one third Persian Jewish, one third mostly-white-and-Asian other, very high population of affluent immigrants. We were plugged in to American pop culture, but I think we were isolated in some senses. Little to no idolization of the sports teams, for example.
- bsenftner 11y ago
  I went to two Midwest high schools in the late 70's early 80's, one was large (5,000 students) and the other was tiny (17 in my class). Both schools had bullies, but the smaller private school had bullies with behavior far in excess of the large public school. The larger school had bullies that would fight each other and protect some nerds they liked or knew, while the smaller school was not diverse enough, so the few bullies had nothing to stop them, and they went way, way too far.
Jtsummers 11y ago
Were you the nerd being beat up/bullied or did you just witness it at different schools? I also moved around a bit and got bullied. It was a lot more about being the new kid than being a nerd. Being a nerd was just what they used to taunt me.
- overdrivetg 11y ago
  I was that nerd, although admittedly I was only in one real fight (in grade school) and I didn't have too many problems beyond that. [edit] I guess I didn't see too much actual violent fighting otherwise beyond (I guess) normal making fun of / pushing around of nerds, although I did see a few fights between girls and some involving more metalhead/burnout types (in case anyone is familiar with the John Hughes High Schooler taxonomy)