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I'm not paid by the hour. I'm paid to deliver. This is true for most developers - typically we take a salary in return for getting stuff done. Now if you want

I'm not paid by the hour. I'm paid to deliver. This is true for most developers - typically we take a salary in return for getting stuff done. Now if you want to lawyer up and demand X hours, $Y pay, rigid adherence to various requirements, etc, that's great for you. But if people are not willing to pay you as much due to the fact that those rigid requirements are a pain, you aren't being discriminated against due to your age. Needless to say I'm opposed to your desire for the government to hobble your competition.

toomuchtodo 11y ago
> I'm not paid by the hour. I'm paid to deliver. This is true for most developers - typically we take a salary in return for getting stuff done. If you're a contractor, yes. If you're an employee, no, not at all. > Needless to say I'm opposed to your desire for the government to hobble your competition. Government exists to protect its citizens above profits. Are you insinuating that labor laws should not be enforced? Or that employers should discriminate against employees who want to actually get paid for the time they work?
- yummyfajitas 11y ago
  Salaried employees are not paid by the hour. They are paid by the week, regardless of how much work they've done. I'm not insinuating anything, I'm explicitly stating that this type of work agreement should not be banned. If you don't like it, demand something hourly. Just don't prevent me from working however I see fit.
  - toomuchtodo 11y ago
    > I'm not insinuating anything, I'm explicitly stating that this type of work agreement should not be banned. Unfortunately, evidence has shown that employers are using such rules to take advantage of workers. Therefore, it should be heavily regulated. We disagree, but that's okay. See you in the public policy arena.
- matwood 11y ago
  > Are you insinuating that labor laws should not be enforced? Or that employers should discriminate against employees who want to actually get paid for the time they work? No, he's saying employers will and should pay for work produced and NOT hours worked. If you want to get paid strictly for time worked, then only do time based contracting.
  - toomuchtodo 11y ago
    Employee =! contractor. If you're an employee, you're getting paid for your time.

toomuchtodo 11y ago

> I'm not paid by the hour. I'm paid to deliver. This is true for most developers - typically we take a salary in return for getting stuff done. If you're a contractor, yes. If you're an employee, no, not at all. > Needless to say I'm opposed to your desire for the government to hobble your competition. Government exists to protect its citizens above profits. Are you insinuating that labor laws should not be enforced? Or that employers should discriminate against employees who want to actually get paid for the time they work?

yummyfajitas 11y ago
Salaried employees are not paid by the hour. They are paid by the week, regardless of how much work they've done. I'm not insinuating anything, I'm explicitly stating that this type of work agreement should not be banned. If you don't like it, demand something hourly. Just don't prevent me from working however I see fit.
- toomuchtodo 11y ago
  > I'm not insinuating anything, I'm explicitly stating that this type of work agreement should not be banned. Unfortunately, evidence has shown that employers are using such rules to take advantage of workers. Therefore, it should be heavily regulated. We disagree, but that's okay. See you in the public policy arena.
matwood 11y ago
> Are you insinuating that labor laws should not be enforced? Or that employers should discriminate against employees who want to actually get paid for the time they work? No, he's saying employers will and should pay for work produced and NOT hours worked. If you want to get paid strictly for time worked, then only do time based contracting.
- toomuchtodo 11y ago
  Employee =! contractor. If you're an employee, you're getting paid for your time.