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Show HN: Comparably – See what people like you get paid at work
- bdwalter 11y agoLost me at asking for my email...
- JasonNazar 11y agobdwalter, we do that we we can verify real people are contributing to the community to keep up the integrity of the data. Tweet me @jasonnazar if there is specific data I can find for you :)
- Artur_Gaspar 11y agoPeople are just going to use throwaway emails.
- balls187 11y agoAnd throwaway salary info.
- ztratar 11y agoThat's a cop-out answer. You do it so you can get more emails. You do it because you use the slimy anchor-point tactic in your primary funnel. Emails are important -- cool -- so just be honest with it. Make the field salary+email right away and don't bait-n-switch.
- BinaryIdiot 11y agoThe problem is you want to eliminate friction. If you can suck someone into your platform and then, later, say "oh btw please verify your email address to we can publish and share your salary. Anonymously, of course". The way it works today I have to grid through all of these forms before I get ANY IDEA what kind of value you may or may not give to me.
- jsprogrammer 11y agoAlso at asking for salary details. Why discriminate against those with no salary? I think this also contradicts the "free" claim. When I push a "See Results For Free" button, I expect to get free results when I push the button, not be prompted to transfer additional information.
- fweespee_ch 11y ago10/10 - It should be optional.
- skimmas 11y agoThey almost lost me with the location selection... The world is a big place to only show 5 or 6 cities. then they lost me with that sequence of anonymous > please register. How's this even anonymous? either they are not linking the previous step to this one so there's no point in registering or they are lying about the anonymous part.
- drdaeman 11y agoThey didn't lost you - they already had your data. That's why the form is 3-step.
- Biffyc7 11y agoSweet design. Really like the filters on the left. It would be cool to see equity on this.
- JasonNazar 11y agoBiffyc7 that's on it's way very soon, stay tuned...
- bpchaps 11y agoI had a hard time with those filters. "Linux Admin" could have been about three top-level filters, yet I wasn't able to find it in any. Why does everyone forget about us? :(
- jorts 11y agoWhy is Customer Support lumped in with admin/office staff? You're also missing a lot of positions that I'd like to see.
- JasonNazar 11y agoJorts we are adding more positions each week. What roles would you like to see?
- jorts 11y agoSupport Engineer, Customer Success Manager (non-sales)
- delinka 11y ago"See results for free" but only after entering your own data in the gigantic fields where your office peers can see from across the room.
- cylinder 11y agoExactly why I bailed. That and wanting me to register. Pass.
- danvoell 11y agoI didn't bail at the gigantic fields (although I should have). I bailed at the login part. Makers of this product, great idea, just be straight forward about it. Also, maybe do password like fields for entering amount you make.
- Normal_gaussian 11y agoSo I work at a company of three with a known massively under my value salary (recent grad, project I want to work on, responsibility I can get nowhere else). I'm obviously always looking at what I could get if we went under or I wanted to leave for an unforseen reason; I find it very hard to work out what I'm equivalent to. By asking for a salary and an email to see what different titles go for it makes it impossible for me to work out where I stand. - and I'm also curious about what we need to offer our next hire (ie what should be expect to get for our money)
- fffrad 11y agoI felt cheated[1], you saved my salary and now you asked for my email before showing me anything. [1]:http://i.imgur.com/qDwJ4Dm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/qDwJ4Dm.jpg
- shapov 11y agoForcing users to enter data like that to see the results, will undoubtedly lead to lots and lots of fake salaries in their system. P.S. My salary is not $2
- JasonNazar 11y agoShapov, there is logic and algorithms that prevent bad data from entering the data set. The data you entered for example would not go into the data set.
- rjbrock 11y agoI clicked next and this is the first thing that I thought of. What a terrible user experience, so much for sharing "anonymously"
- ChuckMcM 11y agoYup. I typically do these things with entirely fictitious numbers before (sorry Marketing Community Managers if I screwed up your results) to see the entire workflow and stopped at the email/linkedin thing. For me at least LinkedIn already has a really bad reputation for exploiting the crap out of your information so I immediately cringe when people try to link to it or use it (same with the Evernote business card scanning service).
- noxToken 11y agoJust to see, I threw in a burner email. Not only do you give your email, but you're forced to make an entire account with demographic data[1]. If you navigate back, you're presented with that modal again. You never get to see the data without entering everything. If you try, you get an error in the modal with the zip code highlighted [2]. No big deal - just throw in a fake zip, right? Nope! Everything must be completed[3]. [1]: http://i63.tinypic.com/2rm0g95.png http://i63.tinypic.com/2rm0g95.png [2]: http://i68.tinypic.com/ezhbvq.png http://i68.tinypic.com/ezhbvq.png [3]: http://i67.tinypic.com/ncm3wn.png http://i67.tinypic.com/ncm3wn.png
- sageabilly 11y agoI don't see how this is an improvement over Glassdoor's salary search. I'm already a user on Glassdoor and they parse much more positions/salaries/cities- what's the advantage for me? Also, NO you cannot have my email or my LinkedIn login! Hell to the no I do not want to type in my salary into a site and have it tied to something that could ID me to an employer down the line if your site gets hacked.
- ldehaan 11y agothis is a scam, they just try to get your data, you can't see anything for free, you have to give personal info and sign up first, which isn't free. what is a crappy site like this doing on HN?
- balls187 11y agoSee what people like you get paid at work* *But only if you give us your salary info and let us mine your linkedin data. No thanks.
- chefkoch 11y agono sysadmins in the job selection. I know admins are underepresented on hn but there are still some out there.
- RickS 11y agoThe bait switch "free" > "give us all your info" modal feels dirty. Just because crappy "growth hacker" blogs do it doesn't mean you have to.
- ztratar 11y agoThe UX tactics on this are blatantly shady. People deserve a trustworthy solution. This violates that immediately.
- warfangle 11y agoThere are more genders out there than you have on your dropdown :) Consider adding a non-binary/genderqueer option, please.
- cbeach 11y ago... and don't forget androgynous, genderfluid, intergender, demigender, amalgagender http://gender.wikia.com/wiki/Non-binary http://gender.wikia.com/wiki/Non-binary God knows you wouldn't want to upset 0.0000001% of the entire population by leaving out their special category.
- warfangle 11y agoIt's a bigger percentage than you think. Non-binary is a pretty inclusive designation, and effectively represents "not entirely male" and "not entirely female" and any and everything inbetween. Genderqueer is a similarly inclusive designation. It's important because not representing it as a viable selection reinforces discrimination[0] against those who don't identify as one of the binary genders. In any case, your reduction of things to 0.0000001% of the entire population is pretty heinously insensitive (then again, this is Hacker News, so cis-sexism and transphobia is generally expected). And pretty false. In a UK survey, 0.4% (or 1 in 250 people) identified as neither fully male nor fully female [1]. Edit: by adding more than the binary male/female, especially with a salary thing like this, you can more easily expose discrimination in pay between not only those who identify as male or identify as female but also those who identify as trans/queer. And given that there is a lot of discrimination out there against us (it's not even illegal to discriminate against trans/genderqueer in many, many, many states), it's an important data point to collect. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_towards_non-binary_gender_persons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_towards_non-bin... 1. http://practicalandrogyny.com/2014/12/16/how-many-people-in-the-uk-are-nonbinary/ http://practicalandrogyny.com/2014/12/16/how-many-people-in-...
- cbeach 11y agoI have nothing against people that choose to identify as whatever niche sexuality they fancy. But I do have a problem with them demanding special treatment to the nth degree, and claiming "discrimination" if their particular demands aren't met.
- tracker1 11y agoI'm not sure if I just need more XP to downvote a submission, but really wish I could with this... the whole UX feels slimy to say the least.
- DanBC 11y agoYou need a small amount of karma before you can [flag] a submission. (No-one can downvote submissions.) I genuinely have no idea when flagging a submission is suitable. I think it's for when a submission shouldn't be here, but maybe I'm wrong.