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I dont think we need smarter humans, i think we need more normal-intelligence humans who like working hard.

by dustingetz 11y ago

vdaniuk 11y ago
>normal-intelligence humans who like working hard Because working hard is a virtue, right?
- daveguy 11y ago
  You may have said that sarcastically, but there is hard work other than manual labor. I think 99% of what we call "intelligence" can be improved with hard work directed toward learning and practice.
  - icebraining 11y ago
    Who said anything about manual labour?
thealistra 11y ago
And what will they do, when robots take all their jobs in some time?
onion2k 11y ago
I respectfully disagree. We need a society of people who hate working hard but, very importantly, are deeply empathic so they won't just leave the hard work for other people. Those are the people who automate the hard things away and share their work so other people can do the same, to leave time for science, abstract creative pursuits, recreation, etc.
- chii 11y ago
  >share their work If you mean share for free, then I don't think that's ever likely on any large scale. You're talking about altruism, which is very exploitable by the scrupulous.
  - onion2k 11y ago
    You're talking about altruism Not at all. We share things so others can build on our work and share their changes back again. The work gets improved (directly by contributions, or by testing, or just through feedback and criticism), and we benefit from those improvements. It isn't altruism because the reason we share the code is to get those improvements. Without community feedback very few people would bother opening up their source and putting it out in the world.
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id 11y ago
Yes, we definitely need more mindless wage slaves and worker drones who like being used and exploited.
- arca_vorago 11y ago
  "You should just feel lucky to have a job at all, who cares that they aren't paying you in level with the amount of service/product you produce for them..." I hate this embrace your servitude mentality.
- AstralStorm 11y ago
  Time for a "Brave New World" indeed.
vijayr 11y ago
I think we need people who have more empathy for others, have more patience, have more respect for fellow humans, animals and the environment in general. I feel working hard, intelligence etc are secondary to empathy.
saiya-jin 11y ago
this is highly subjective topic, nobody really knows what mankind truly needs long term in current state. we can state our own personal preferences that would improve things we care for, but that's another topic with possibly different outcomes. For example, I can easily say we need more people with high moral standards who don't lie, cheat partners, friends,family and do overall positive added value to mankind. This can be anything from freeing a seat in full bus to granny/pregnant woman to curing some specific type of cancer, and anything in between. They don't even need to work hard on this, even small positive action here and there, multiplied by 7 billions, would change our lives gradually for the better. But that's just my subjective 2 cents :)

I dont think we need smarter humans, i think we need more normal-intelligence humans who like working hard.

vdaniuk 11y ago

>normal-intelligence humans who like working hard Because working hard is a virtue, right?

daveguy 11y ago
You may have said that sarcastically, but there is hard work other than manual labor. I think 99% of what we call "intelligence" can be improved with hard work directed toward learning and practice.
- icebraining 11y ago
  Who said anything about manual labour?

thealistra 11y ago

And what will they do, when robots take all their jobs in some time?

onion2k 11y ago

I respectfully disagree. We need a society of people who hate working hard but, very importantly, are deeply empathic so they won't just leave the hard work for other people. Those are the people who automate the hard things away and share their work so other people can do the same, to leave time for science, abstract creative pursuits, recreation, etc.

chii 11y ago
>share their work If you mean share for free, then I don't think that's ever likely on any large scale. You're talking about altruism, which is very exploitable by the scrupulous.
- onion2k 11y ago
  You're talking about altruism Not at all. We share things so others can build on our work and share their changes back again. The work gets improved (directly by contributions, or by testing, or just through feedback and criticism), and we benefit from those improvements. It isn't altruism because the reason we share the code is to get those improvements. Without community feedback very few people would bother opening up their source and putting it out in the world.

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id 11y ago

Yes, we definitely need more mindless wage slaves and worker drones who like being used and exploited.

arca_vorago 11y ago
"You should just feel lucky to have a job at all, who cares that they aren't paying you in level with the amount of service/product you produce for them..." I hate this embrace your servitude mentality.
AstralStorm 11y ago
Time for a "Brave New World" indeed.

vijayr 11y ago

I think we need people who have more empathy for others, have more patience, have more respect for fellow humans, animals and the environment in general. I feel working hard, intelligence etc are secondary to empathy.

saiya-jin 11y ago

this is highly subjective topic, nobody really knows what mankind truly needs long term in current state. we can state our own personal preferences that would improve things we care for, but that's another topic with possibly different outcomes. For example, I can easily say we need more people with high moral standards who don't lie, cheat partners, friends,family and do overall positive added value to mankind. This can be anything from freeing a seat in full bus to granny/pregnant woman to curing some specific type of cancer, and anything in between. They don't even need to work hard on this, even small positive action here and there, multiplied by 7 billions, would change our lives gradually for the better. But that's just my subjective 2 cents :)