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These aren't the smart engineering politicians with a 10 year view China has foisted its fable onto the world. These are the corrupt paranoid politicians who kn

These aren't the smart engineering politicians with a 10 year view China has foisted its fable onto the world. These are the corrupt paranoid politicians who know they are one mass protest away from having all their families disposed. These are fat and lazy billionnaires who have siphoned off local schools, hospitals, people, environments, and is about to abscond with riches. These are the people that see their debt-fueled economy collapsing, and know there's no more workers to be paid in pennies to be exploited. ""In total, 106 members of China's National People's Congress and 97 members of Chinese People’s Political Consultative Congress, are on Hurun's China Rich List. Their combined wealth hits $463.8 billion" http://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-politicians-are-rich-2015-3 http://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-politicians-are-rich-... Kyle Bass: China’s $34 trillion banking sector set to collapse 30-40% https://www.trunews.com/kyle-bass-chinas-34-trillion-banking-sector-set-to-collapse-30-40/ https://www.trunews.com/kyle-bass-chinas-34-trillion-banking...

hitekker 11y ago
I would caution against conflating engineering skills alone with thoughtful governance.
moreorless 11y ago
You sure love to bash on China. It seems like are your submissions/comments are anti-China.
- sharetea 11y ago
  i don't like evil government. do you? "China 'covertly providing oil to North Korea' Seoul claims Beijing falsifying its export statistics to keep Pyongyang's industry, military operational" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/11230327/China-covertly-providing-oil-to-North-Korea.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/11... Missiles Deployed on Disputed South China Sea Artificial Island, Officials Say http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/18/world/asia/china-missiles-south-china-sea.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/18/world/asia/china-missiles-...
  - thanksgiving 11y ago
    > These are the people that see their debt-fueled economy collapsing, and know there's no more workers to be paid in pennies to be exploited. I know they're evil but from what you've written it seems that China is developing in spite of what the China PR government is doing. It could be better with a better system of government but we have what we have and I fear a disruption in something as big as the government of China would be very bad for the world economy in the short term. As the saying goes, it will likely become much worse before it gets better.
  - 1stop 11y ago
    But what is your measure of evil? US invaded Iraq twice for oil, and had deployed missiles to all sorts of non sovereign land, that had upset is neighbours. Literally a 1-1 comparison for both your examples. If that is your measure for "evil government" please point out a "good" government.
    - drdaeman 11y ago
      But... what if there's none?
- kelukelugames 11y ago
  To be fair, sharedtea bashes Russia too. He has been warned by dang before. Guess that didn't change much.
- z2 11y ago
  Agreed, single purpose politically-charged accounts add a lot of noise, and really put a damper on this community's discussion. HN guidelines say to generally avoid submitting off-topic items such as political commentary, so shouldn't that same guideline apply to comments? Besides, one could write a 'bash' script to do the same thing. 1) Find links to negative sentiment news. 2) Find key data and exaggerate in negative direction. 3) Splatter links and data on any HN discussion containing "China"
- ndesaulniers 11y ago
  Are you addressing them? or their argument?
- dave2000 11y ago
  Sounds like something you could say about a black American who's complaining about racism in America.
- seanmcdirmid 11y ago
  Why not bash the message rather than the person?
hackuser 11y ago
> These aren't the smart engineering politicians with a 10 year view China Engineers should not be expected to make good political leaders; it's a much different skill set and job. The two recent American presidents who were engineers were Herbert Hoover and Jimmy Carter (am I overlooking any?).

hitekker 11y ago

I would caution against conflating engineering skills alone with thoughtful governance.

moreorless 11y ago

You sure love to bash on China. It seems like are your submissions/comments are anti-China.

sharetea 11y ago
i don't like evil government. do you? "China 'covertly providing oil to North Korea' Seoul claims Beijing falsifying its export statistics to keep Pyongyang's industry, military operational" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/11230327/China-covertly-providing-oil-to-North-Korea.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/11... Missiles Deployed on Disputed South China Sea Artificial Island, Officials Say http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/18/world/asia/china-missiles-south-china-sea.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/18/world/asia/china-missiles-...
- thanksgiving 11y ago
  > These are the people that see their debt-fueled economy collapsing, and know there's no more workers to be paid in pennies to be exploited. I know they're evil but from what you've written it seems that China is developing in spite of what the China PR government is doing. It could be better with a better system of government but we have what we have and I fear a disruption in something as big as the government of China would be very bad for the world economy in the short term. As the saying goes, it will likely become much worse before it gets better.
- 1stop 11y ago
  But what is your measure of evil? US invaded Iraq twice for oil, and had deployed missiles to all sorts of non sovereign land, that had upset is neighbours. Literally a 1-1 comparison for both your examples. If that is your measure for "evil government" please point out a "good" government.
  - drdaeman 11y ago
    But... what if there's none?
kelukelugames 11y ago
To be fair, sharedtea bashes Russia too. He has been warned by dang before. Guess that didn't change much.
z2 11y ago
Agreed, single purpose politically-charged accounts add a lot of noise, and really put a damper on this community's discussion. HN guidelines say to generally avoid submitting off-topic items such as political commentary, so shouldn't that same guideline apply to comments? Besides, one could write a 'bash' script to do the same thing. 1) Find links to negative sentiment news. 2) Find key data and exaggerate in negative direction. 3) Splatter links and data on any HN discussion containing "China"
ndesaulniers 11y ago
Are you addressing them? or their argument?
dave2000 11y ago
Sounds like something you could say about a black American who's complaining about racism in America.
seanmcdirmid 11y ago
Why not bash the message rather than the person?

hackuser 11y ago

> These aren't the smart engineering politicians with a 10 year view China Engineers should not be expected to make good political leaders; it's a much different skill set and job. The two recent American presidents who were engineers were Herbert Hoover and Jimmy Carter (am I overlooking any?).