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So there is a crisis at the WM foundation? could you explain for those who are not in the loop? is it about their search engine project?

by aikah 11y ago

ptest1 11y ago
The crux of it is that she just lost the faith of senior staff. The cause of that probably can't be known by outsiders. But the issue blew up in the wider community when the grant was posted.
- chris_wot 11y ago
  Actually, it is known by outsiders. In the end the staff were very open about their concerns. It was the secrecy, dissembling and frankly bastardry that caused good people like James Heilman to be removed from the BoT over the fiasco that was the Knowledge Engine.
  - codezero 11y ago
    Do you think she was written off from the start on account of her low edit count?
chris_wot 11y ago
I've written a few comments, they might be helpful. One I just posted here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11177401 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11177401 But the original story on HN has some comments from me: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11101164 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11101164 My take at the time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11101262 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11101262 For an excellent backgrounder, then Liam awyatt's b;oh sets things put the clearest: http://wittylama.com/2016/01/08/strategy-and-controversy/ http://wittylama.com/2016/01/08/strategy-and-controversy/ And: http://wittylama.com/2016/01/30/strategy-controversy-part-2/ http://wittylama.com/2016/01/30/strategy-controversy-part-2/
- aikah 11y ago
  Thank you.
- deleted 11y ago
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filbertkm 11y ago
I don't think the community necessarily rejects the idea of a "search engine" project, but the way it was communicated (or lack of) is the main problem. As well, the foundation has no current strategic plan at the moment. Once there is a plan (formed with community involvement) and it's decided some search project should be a priority, then I think most people would have no problem with such grant funding.

So there is a crisis at the WM foundation? could you explain for those who are not in the loop? is it about their search engine project?

by aikah 11y ago

So there is a crisis at the WM foundation? could you explain for those who are not in the loop? is it about their search engine project?

ptest1 11y ago

The crux of it is that she just lost the faith of senior staff. The cause of that probably can't be known by outsiders. But the issue blew up in the wider community when the grant was posted.

chris_wot 11y ago
Actually, it is known by outsiders. In the end the staff were very open about their concerns. It was the secrecy, dissembling and frankly bastardry that caused good people like James Heilman to be removed from the BoT over the fiasco that was the Knowledge Engine.
- codezero 11y ago
  Do you think she was written off from the start on account of her low edit count?

chris_wot 11y ago

I've written a few comments, they might be helpful. One I just posted here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11177401 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11177401 But the original story on HN has some comments from me: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11101164 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11101164 My take at the time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11101262 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11101262 For an excellent backgrounder, then Liam awyatt's b;oh sets things put the clearest: http://wittylama.com/2016/01/08/strategy-and-controversy/ http://wittylama.com/2016/01/08/strategy-and-controversy/ And: http://wittylama.com/2016/01/30/strategy-controversy-part-2/ http://wittylama.com/2016/01/30/strategy-controversy-part-2/

aikah 11y ago
Thank you.
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filbertkm 11y ago

I don't think the community necessarily rejects the idea of a "search engine" project, but the way it was communicated (or lack of) is the main problem. As well, the foundation has no current strategic plan at the moment. Once there is a plan (formed with community involvement) and it's decided some search project should be a priority, then I think most people would have no problem with such grant funding.