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How about completely separated WiFi network for all IoT junk?

SmellyGeekBoy 11y ago
Good idea. A lot of high end routers have an option for a "guest network" these days. Or just invest in a cheapo access point just for IoT devices.
- 746F7475 11y ago
  Depends on your paranoia level if you trust something like that, but most people have old wifi enabled routers just laying around
- PietdeVries 11y ago
  But... As soon as your bridge for the lights is on some sort of guest AP/network, your client on your phone can't reach it anymore, and thus has to be on that same network. And that will annoy you quick enought to not try to install the extra or guest AP at all...
  - 746F7475 11y ago
    Depends on the IoT device, some only have web interface that is controlled via manufacturers website, so as long as the actual device has internet connectivity you can do everything. Or maybe you can setup a "thorwaway" PC as a sort of proxy? Or maybe just one of the old (and sad) tablets/phones, depends on what you need/want to do and what kind of interfaces your IoT devices offer
    - late2part 11y ago
      Using a device that is controlled by an external "cloud" server is even worse - you've just given an untrusted 3rd party root access to a device on your lan.
      - 746F7475 11y ago
        Not if you keep IoT devices on a separate network
      - Kadin 11y ago
        Plus, devices like that are almost guaranteed to become garbage very rapidly when the vendor decides to stop operating that central command server, wherever it is. And unless you're paying a maintenance fee, they're going to cut that off pretty quickly once they stop selling new units of that particular model. It's the biggest reason why I'm skeptical about all things IoT: too much "cloud" without an SLA or any guarantee of longevity on the service side.
    - api 11y ago
      Does a 2000 mile data path to a light bulb seem dumb to anyone else?
      - 746F7475 11y ago
        Just as dumb as 2000 mile data path to a doorbell or security camera, but that still exists. I personally haven't really thought about getting a IoT light bulb, but I would imagine you would program them to turn on when sun goes down, that shouldn't need direct connectivity and the bulbs can't tracks your phone moving aruond the house (or at least I doubt they can), so you either have to turn them on with your phone as you move along or just flip the switch or install actual movement sensors. I'm probably completely missing the point of smart light bulbs, maybe you have actual use cases?

Good idea. A lot of high end routers have an option for a "guest network" these days. Or just invest in a cheapo access point just for IoT devices.

746F7475 11y ago
Depends on your paranoia level if you trust something like that, but most people have old wifi enabled routers just laying around
PietdeVries 11y ago
But... As soon as your bridge for the lights is on some sort of guest AP/network, your client on your phone can't reach it anymore, and thus has to be on that same network. And that will annoy you quick enought to not try to install the extra or guest AP at all...
- 746F7475 11y ago
  Depends on the IoT device, some only have web interface that is controlled via manufacturers website, so as long as the actual device has internet connectivity you can do everything. Or maybe you can setup a "thorwaway" PC as a sort of proxy? Or maybe just one of the old (and sad) tablets/phones, depends on what you need/want to do and what kind of interfaces your IoT devices offer
  - late2part 11y ago
    Using a device that is controlled by an external "cloud" server is even worse - you've just given an untrusted 3rd party root access to a device on your lan.
    - 746F7475 11y ago
      Not if you keep IoT devices on a separate network
    - Kadin 11y ago
      Plus, devices like that are almost guaranteed to become garbage very rapidly when the vendor decides to stop operating that central command server, wherever it is. And unless you're paying a maintenance fee, they're going to cut that off pretty quickly once they stop selling new units of that particular model. It's the biggest reason why I'm skeptical about all things IoT: too much "cloud" without an SLA or any guarantee of longevity on the service side.
  - api 11y ago
    Does a 2000 mile data path to a light bulb seem dumb to anyone else?
    - 746F7475 11y ago
      Just as dumb as 2000 mile data path to a doorbell or security camera, but that still exists. I personally haven't really thought about getting a IoT light bulb, but I would imagine you would program them to turn on when sun goes down, that shouldn't need direct connectivity and the bulbs can't tracks your phone moving aruond the house (or at least I doubt they can), so you either have to turn them on with your phone as you move along or just flip the switch or install actual movement sensors. I'm probably completely missing the point of smart light bulbs, maybe you have actual use cases?