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I somehow stumbled onto Kubernetes, it met all of my needs for a complete setup, and now I'm sticking to it. I really enjoy using it. Before that happened, I f

I somehow stumbled onto Kubernetes, it met all of my needs for a complete setup, and now I'm sticking to it. I really enjoy using it. Before that happened, I felt the exact same way. I still do. Docker, HashiCorp, CoreOS, Google and Amazon are all fighting for control, some building on the work of others, some developing their own solutions, some targeting different markets, some targeting the same market. It's incredibly messy, confusing and yet also somehow supposed to make my life easier.

pramodliv1 11y ago
And what's their business model going to be like? Freemium as in Nginx Plus? Pay for monitoring? Support and Consulting?
- caleblloyd 11y ago
  Kubernetes is pay for hosting in the case of Google Container Engine, and pay for hosting + support in case of RedHat OpenShift Origin (which leverages Kubernetes). Docker Datacenter appears to be pay for support based off their pricing page at https://www.docker.com/pricing https://www.docker.com/pricing (which just says call for quote basically).
  - wstrange 11y ago
    To clarify: Kubernetes is an open source project that runs on everything from bare metal, VMs, cloud (AWS, GCE, ...) and container as a service (GKE) i.e. You can pay money to have someone run it for you (GKE), or you can roll your own.
- conradev 11y ago
  Kubernetes is an open source project sponsored by Google. Google offers hosted Kubernetes for the cost of the servers and calls it Google Container Engine. It makes their Cloud Platform more attractive. Ideally, the dependence on Google goes down over time. CoreOS maintains and builds kube-aws[1]. [1] https://coreos.com/kubernetes/docs/latest/kubernetes-on-aws.html https://coreos.com/kubernetes/docs/latest/kubernetes-on-aws....
  - brazzledazzle 11y ago
    >Ideally, the dependence on Google goes down over time. I know that you're referring to development but just wanted to point out to anyone that might think you're referring to their cloud service that you're not.
api 11y ago
It's the cloud equivalent of the PC world in the 80s: Commodore (64 and Amiga), Apple, TRS-80, IBM, TI, and dozens of smaller players all competing for platform dominance.

pramodliv1 11y ago

And what's their business model going to be like? Freemium as in Nginx Plus? Pay for monitoring? Support and Consulting?

caleblloyd 11y ago
Kubernetes is pay for hosting in the case of Google Container Engine, and pay for hosting + support in case of RedHat OpenShift Origin (which leverages Kubernetes). Docker Datacenter appears to be pay for support based off their pricing page at https://www.docker.com/pricing https://www.docker.com/pricing (which just says call for quote basically).
- wstrange 11y ago
  To clarify: Kubernetes is an open source project that runs on everything from bare metal, VMs, cloud (AWS, GCE, ...) and container as a service (GKE) i.e. You can pay money to have someone run it for you (GKE), or you can roll your own.
conradev 11y ago
Kubernetes is an open source project sponsored by Google. Google offers hosted Kubernetes for the cost of the servers and calls it Google Container Engine. It makes their Cloud Platform more attractive. Ideally, the dependence on Google goes down over time. CoreOS maintains and builds kube-aws[1]. [1] https://coreos.com/kubernetes/docs/latest/kubernetes-on-aws.html https://coreos.com/kubernetes/docs/latest/kubernetes-on-aws....
- brazzledazzle 11y ago
  >Ideally, the dependence on Google goes down over time. I know that you're referring to development but just wanted to point out to anyone that might think you're referring to their cloud service that you're not.

api 11y ago

It's the cloud equivalent of the PC world in the 80s: Commodore (64 and Amiga), Apple, TRS-80, IBM, TI, and dozens of smaller players all competing for platform dominance.