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Using a terminal in windows was a horrible experience when I had to do it for a (fortunately brief) project a couple of years ago. But I think the real problem

Using a terminal in windows was a horrible experience when I had to do it for a (fortunately brief) project a couple of years ago. But I think the real problem isn't the lack of a decent shell; there are already several shells out there that, while not as nice as their modern Unix equivalents, are at least usable. The bigger problem for me was the terminal emulator. Awful fonts, worse rendering, crappy copy/paste, limited size, no split screen or tabs, etc etc. It truly felt like being back in the 90's, although I'll bet that even in the 90's the Linux terminal emulator experience was better than Windows is now.

marmaduke 11y ago
Checkout ConEmu; it's like a combination of a decent term emu, tmux & dwm.
meritt 11y ago
http://babun.github.io/ http://babun.github.io/ is wonderful. ConEmu is a great container for a tabbed interface of Babun, PuTTY or powershell instances.
- mmanfrin 11y ago
  Babun seems to solve none of the issues that the original commenter mentioned. Awful fonts, worse rendering, crappy copy/paste, limited size, no split screen or tabs The screenshots on the Babun site show the same 90s-era looking shell container. ConEmu looks to have more features, but is similarly stuck in the Win-98 design aesthetic.
  - meritt 11y ago
    I have none of these issues. Fonts are nice and smooth (I'm using Consolas 10pt). Copy-paste works seamlessly. Limited size? In what regard? I can expand the window as I want vertically and horizontally and I have as much scrollback as I want (you configure it). ConEmu handles the splitting and/or tabs which works wonderfully. Guess we're in opinion-mode at this point. Can you provide an example of what you feel is a beautifully designed.. terminal container? We're still talking about the border of a shell are we not? I must be missing something here.
  - joshschreuder 11y ago
    What about Cmder then? http://cmder.net/ http://cmder.net/ It is slick, has nice copy/paste, can resize, do split terminals, and tabs.
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zem 11y ago
back in the win2k days i used to use the windows port of rxvt. it worked pretty well, though it didn't have splits or tabs.
to3m 11y ago
I have one word to say to that bet... no, wait... five... um... how many words is "]]]~3H^\x0b]]"? But I suppose at least you only had to press one key to type it ;)
voltagex_ 11y ago
Things are changing: * https://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2014/10/07/console-improvements-in-the-windows-10-technical-preview/ https://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2014/10/07/console-im... * http://www.nivot.org/blog/post/2016/02/04/Windows-10-TH2-%28v1511%29-Console-Host-Enhancements http://www.nivot.org/blog/post/2016/02/04/Windows-10-TH2-%28... * http://www.hanselman.com/blog/Windows10GetsAFreshCommandPromptAndLotsOfHotkeys.aspx http://www.hanselman.com/blog/Windows10GetsAFreshCommandProm... No, it's not perfect, and PuTTY isn't always the answer, but who'd have thought https://github.com/PowerShell/Win32-OpenSSH https://github.com/PowerShell/Win32-OpenSSH would ever be a thing.

marmaduke 11y ago

Checkout ConEmu; it's like a combination of a decent term emu, tmux & dwm.

meritt 11y ago

http://babun.github.io/ http://babun.github.io/ is wonderful. ConEmu is a great container for a tabbed interface of Babun, PuTTY or powershell instances.

mmanfrin 11y ago
Babun seems to solve none of the issues that the original commenter mentioned. Awful fonts, worse rendering, crappy copy/paste, limited size, no split screen or tabs The screenshots on the Babun site show the same 90s-era looking shell container. ConEmu looks to have more features, but is similarly stuck in the Win-98 design aesthetic.
- meritt 11y ago
  I have none of these issues. Fonts are nice and smooth (I'm using Consolas 10pt). Copy-paste works seamlessly. Limited size? In what regard? I can expand the window as I want vertically and horizontally and I have as much scrollback as I want (you configure it). ConEmu handles the splitting and/or tabs which works wonderfully. Guess we're in opinion-mode at this point. Can you provide an example of what you feel is a beautifully designed.. terminal container? We're still talking about the border of a shell are we not? I must be missing something here.
- joshschreuder 11y ago
  What about Cmder then? http://cmder.net/ http://cmder.net/ It is slick, has nice copy/paste, can resize, do split terminals, and tabs.
- deleted 11y ago
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zem 11y ago

back in the win2k days i used to use the windows port of rxvt. it worked pretty well, though it didn't have splits or tabs.

to3m 11y ago

I have one word to say to that bet... no, wait... five... um... how many words is "]]]~3H^\x0b]]"? But I suppose at least you only had to press one key to type it ;)

voltagex_ 11y ago

Things are changing: * https://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2014/10/07/console-improvements-in-the-windows-10-technical-preview/ https://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2014/10/07/console-im... * http://www.nivot.org/blog/post/2016/02/04/Windows-10-TH2-%28v1511%29-Console-Host-Enhancements http://www.nivot.org/blog/post/2016/02/04/Windows-10-TH2-%28... * http://www.hanselman.com/blog/Windows10GetsAFreshCommandPromptAndLotsOfHotkeys.aspx http://www.hanselman.com/blog/Windows10GetsAFreshCommandProm... No, it's not perfect, and PuTTY isn't always the answer, but who'd have thought https://github.com/PowerShell/Win32-OpenSSH https://github.com/PowerShell/Win32-OpenSSH would ever be a thing.