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Wonder why can FBI just hand the phone to Apple keep the phone just get the data we don't needed specifics.

api 11y ago
Because once it is shown how it's done they will push to mandate the capability and force inferior security.
rplst8 11y ago
Do you really want that to be the model for American justice? Law enforcement hands your digital electronic records over to a private company who has the power to put anything on that phone? Do you want to entrust your personal legal future to a private entity? I think I'd want a solid chain of custody on anything that may prove my innocence.
- tosseraccount 11y ago
  The phone was the property of San Bernardino County. The county has longstanding email and Internet use policies that state, “NO USER SHOULD HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY” - http://ktla.com/2016/02/18/why-didnt-san-bernardino-county-officials-have-access-to-the-terrorist-iphone/ http://ktla.com/2016/02/18/why-didnt-san-bernardino-county-o...
  - dclowd9901 11y ago
    I bet even I, not a lawyer, could reasonably defend that, no matter who "owns it", a device as personal and as much an extension of the brain as a smartphone could be considered private.
- buzzdenver 11y ago
  That's a very weak argument. Individuals and companies testify in court all the time. They could lie and plant evidence, but in most cases I'd still trust them more than the police who kind of has an incentive to find somebody guilty.
URSpider94 11y ago
Besides the chain of custody issues with the evidence if it leaves the Government's hands, Apple would almost certainly refuse to do this just the same.
spin 11y ago
There's an article in the New York Times which says that Apple has already been doing this [1], but they seem to have had a change of heart in the past few years. Each data-extraction request was carefully vetted by Apple’s lawyers. Of those deemed legitimate, Apple in recent years required that law enforcement officials physically travel with the gadget to the company’s headquarters, where a trusted Apple engineer would work on the phones inside Faraday bags, which block wireless signals, during the process of data extraction. 1. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/19/technology/how-tim-cook-became-a-bulwark-for-digital-privacy.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/19/technology/how-tim-cook-be...

api 11y ago

Because once it is shown how it's done they will push to mandate the capability and force inferior security.

Do you really want that to be the model for American justice? Law enforcement hands your digital electronic records over to a private company who has the power to put anything on that phone? Do you want to entrust your personal legal future to a private entity? I think I'd want a solid chain of custody on anything that may prove my innocence.

tosseraccount 11y ago
The phone was the property of San Bernardino County. The county has longstanding email and Internet use policies that state, “NO USER SHOULD HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY” - http://ktla.com/2016/02/18/why-didnt-san-bernardino-county-officials-have-access-to-the-terrorist-iphone/ http://ktla.com/2016/02/18/why-didnt-san-bernardino-county-o...
- dclowd9901 11y ago
  I bet even I, not a lawyer, could reasonably defend that, no matter who "owns it", a device as personal and as much an extension of the brain as a smartphone could be considered private.
buzzdenver 11y ago
That's a very weak argument. Individuals and companies testify in court all the time. They could lie and plant evidence, but in most cases I'd still trust them more than the police who kind of has an incentive to find somebody guilty.

URSpider94 11y ago

Besides the chain of custody issues with the evidence if it leaves the Government's hands, Apple would almost certainly refuse to do this just the same.

spin 11y ago

There's an article in the New York Times which says that Apple has already been doing this [1], but they seem to have had a change of heart in the past few years. Each data-extraction request was carefully vetted by Apple’s lawyers. Of those deemed legitimate, Apple in recent years required that law enforcement officials physically travel with the gadget to the company’s headquarters, where a trusted Apple engineer would work on the phones inside Faraday bags, which block wireless signals, during the process of data extraction. 1. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/19/technology/how-tim-cook-became-a-bulwark-for-digital-privacy.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/19/technology/how-tim-cook-be...