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This quote is good too: > “In the early days when we arrived, the people > were impressed with us,” he said. “They were taking > pictures of us, invitin

This quote is good too: > “In the early days when we arrived, the people > were impressed with us,” he said. “They were taking > pictures of us, inviting us into their homes. > They liked our brown skin and our dark hair.” It seems people were mostly nice to them in Finland.

coldtea 11y ago
Yes, but it's also part of a trend -- like it's the cause-of-the-day and everybody tried to show nice they were because of it (not totally unlike Hollywood celebrities suddenly championing some cause or another in the third world, when in fact they don't care that much). Which is not bad in itself, but can be dangerous when there's no substance to that, and their hosts become bored with that "cause" and forget about them or turn hostile.
- tw04 11y ago
  The hosts SHOULD forget about them... the whole point is you welcome them with open arms, give them a little help to get them started, and send them on their way. This isn't "handouts for life". This is "here let us give you an opportunity, it's your job to make something of it". If they can't survive on their own, they SHOULD go back to where they came from and make a life there.
  - maus42 11y ago
    However, majority of these people sought / are seeking asylum is, not claiming that they want to migrate for better quality of life. The people who would be granted asylum theoretically should be persons who would be in a grave danger in the country they came from (ranging from wrongful imprisonment for e.g. political opinion we would find perfectly justifiable, to torture and death for gender identity or sexual orientation). Some people were just "regular people" in Syria (not especially persecuted bloggers or minorities), but still rather want to escape rather than be maimed or killed in a brutal war where "good sides" are hard to find. Now, the main point in the whole migrant / refugee crisis seems to be that many people who would be economic migrants are using the asylum system to try to enter certain EU countries, but there also this thing that the-would-be-legitimate asylum seekers are also are prone to have much better economic future if they are granted in asylum in country like Finland: differentiating between those is very difficult. This is why it's difficult mess. edit. is, not isn't.
    - venomsnake 11y ago
      The majority of them come trough Turkey, no one is in grave danger in Turkey. The moment you cross a second border - you are economic migrant, not refugee.

coldtea 11y ago

Yes, but it's also part of a trend -- like it's the cause-of-the-day and everybody tried to show nice they were because of it (not totally unlike Hollywood celebrities suddenly championing some cause or another in the third world, when in fact they don't care that much). Which is not bad in itself, but can be dangerous when there's no substance to that, and their hosts become bored with that "cause" and forget about them or turn hostile.

tw04 11y ago
The hosts SHOULD forget about them... the whole point is you welcome them with open arms, give them a little help to get them started, and send them on their way. This isn't "handouts for life". This is "here let us give you an opportunity, it's your job to make something of it". If they can't survive on their own, they SHOULD go back to where they came from and make a life there.
- maus42 11y ago
  However, majority of these people sought / are seeking asylum is, not claiming that they want to migrate for better quality of life. The people who would be granted asylum theoretically should be persons who would be in a grave danger in the country they came from (ranging from wrongful imprisonment for e.g. political opinion we would find perfectly justifiable, to torture and death for gender identity or sexual orientation). Some people were just "regular people" in Syria (not especially persecuted bloggers or minorities), but still rather want to escape rather than be maimed or killed in a brutal war where "good sides" are hard to find. Now, the main point in the whole migrant / refugee crisis seems to be that many people who would be economic migrants are using the asylum system to try to enter certain EU countries, but there also this thing that the-would-be-legitimate asylum seekers are also are prone to have much better economic future if they are granted in asylum in country like Finland: differentiating between those is very difficult. This is why it's difficult mess. edit. is, not isn't.
  - venomsnake 11y ago
    The majority of them come trough Turkey, no one is in grave danger in Turkey. The moment you cross a second border - you are economic migrant, not refugee.