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(Not the one who downvoted you). Why do people always mention carbs this days ? Is it the new trend after the no-fat diet ? I just don't get it, carbs have alw

(Not the one who downvoted you). Why do people always mention carbs this days ? Is it the new trend after the no-fat diet ? I just don't get it, carbs have always been a major part of meals since medieval times and it's clearly a part of a normal alimentation, if you put everything in moderation, I don't see really the problem, I just don't get it.

WhyDoiPostHere 11y ago
Because carbs affect insulin. When your insulin is high, you store fat. When your insulin is low, you burn fat. It's that simple. Combine that with the fact we in the western world overconsume carbs because they're cheap and addictive and you get your answer.
- noondip 11y ago
  Carbs make your insulin go up, but so does protein; a steak will cause substantially higher insulin secretion than pure white table sugar. What you really want to be eating is a high-carbohydrate, high-fiber diet (whole plant foods, lots of whole grains, beans, fruits, and vegetables).
  - WhyDoiPostHere 11y ago
    Absolute nonsense. I don't suppose you have actual science to back up your quackery?
    - noondip 11y ago
      Well, since you've asked so politely! An insulin index of foods: the insulin demand generated by 1000-kJ portion of common foods http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/66/5/1264.abstract http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/66/5/1264.abstract
Someone1234 11y ago
Complex carbs are definitely not new, but the amount we eat today is unusual in the grand scheme of things. Cutting them is currently popular for one very simple reason: It works. Cutting sugar is very healthy and will likely result in weight loss, but if you cut sugar and replace if with carbs like bread and pasta, you've kind of exchanged one bad for another. If however you cut both complex carbs AND sugar, and replace them both with almost anything else you'll shed the weight. Seems the Atkin's diet (eat unprocessed meats only) really did have some merits after all, fats and animal proteins are very healthy, as are greens, just have to kick that sugar addiction... I'd be legitimately interested to meet an overweight individual who could maintain that weight without eating sugar or complex carbs, I don't personally think it is possible, but I'd be interested to be proved wrong.
- noondip 11y ago
  > fats and animal proteins are very healthy If so, why did Dr. Atkins die overweight with a history of heart attack, congestive heart failure and hypertension? Please, don't buy into the Atkins/low-carb/paleo hype - check out http://www.atkinsfacts.org/ http://www.atkinsfacts.org/
  - rhinoceraptor 11y ago
    The plural of anecdote is not data. And you only gave one.
  - Someone1234 11y ago
    He died at the age of 72... Plus this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Atkins_(nutritionist)#Cardiac_Arrest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Atkins_(nutritionist)#C... If you follow general nutrition there is almost nobody currently saying sugar and complex carbs are good for you, everyone is saying to limit your intake, while consuming more fats, proteins, and greens. All of those diets have one thing in common: Less sugar and less of things that easily metabolize into sugar.
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WhyDoiPostHere 11y ago

Because carbs affect insulin. When your insulin is high, you store fat. When your insulin is low, you burn fat. It's that simple. Combine that with the fact we in the western world overconsume carbs because they're cheap and addictive and you get your answer.

noondip 11y ago
Carbs make your insulin go up, but so does protein; a steak will cause substantially higher insulin secretion than pure white table sugar. What you really want to be eating is a high-carbohydrate, high-fiber diet (whole plant foods, lots of whole grains, beans, fruits, and vegetables).
- WhyDoiPostHere 11y ago
  Absolute nonsense. I don't suppose you have actual science to back up your quackery?
  - noondip 11y ago
    Well, since you've asked so politely! An insulin index of foods: the insulin demand generated by 1000-kJ portion of common foods http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/66/5/1264.abstract http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/66/5/1264.abstract

Someone1234 11y ago

Complex carbs are definitely not new, but the amount we eat today is unusual in the grand scheme of things. Cutting them is currently popular for one very simple reason: It works. Cutting sugar is very healthy and will likely result in weight loss, but if you cut sugar and replace if with carbs like bread and pasta, you've kind of exchanged one bad for another. If however you cut both complex carbs AND sugar, and replace them both with almost anything else you'll shed the weight. Seems the Atkin's diet (eat unprocessed meats only) really did have some merits after all, fats and animal proteins are very healthy, as are greens, just have to kick that sugar addiction... I'd be legitimately interested to meet an overweight individual who could maintain that weight without eating sugar or complex carbs, I don't personally think it is possible, but I'd be interested to be proved wrong.

noondip 11y ago
> fats and animal proteins are very healthy If so, why did Dr. Atkins die overweight with a history of heart attack, congestive heart failure and hypertension? Please, don't buy into the Atkins/low-carb/paleo hype - check out http://www.atkinsfacts.org/ http://www.atkinsfacts.org/
- rhinoceraptor 11y ago
  The plural of anecdote is not data. And you only gave one.
- Someone1234 11y ago
  He died at the age of 72... Plus this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Atkins_(nutritionist)#Cardiac_Arrest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Atkins_(nutritionist)#C... If you follow general nutrition there is almost nobody currently saying sugar and complex carbs are good for you, everyone is saying to limit your intake, while consuming more fats, proteins, and greens. All of those diets have one thing in common: Less sugar and less of things that easily metabolize into sugar.
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