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So that's 6 months of sales versus 3 months for the Surface, so not directly comparable.

gelasio 11y ago
coldtea is a known pro-Apple, anti-Microsoft shill who has no problem lying in an attempt to make Apple look good and make Microsoft look bad. Anyone who acted like this person in an anti-Apple way would have been kicked off of this forum already.
- coldtea 11y ago
  >coldtea is a known pro-Apple, anti-Microsoft shill who has no problem lying in an attempt to make Apple look good and make Microsoft look bad. Sorry, but what is this kind of Reddit-level BS? First, "shill" means a paid lackey. I don't think you know me, and I sure don't know you. So that's not just rude, it's insulting. Even more so "has no problem lying". Also "known pro-Apple, anti-Microsoft"? What are you, 16 years old? If you have issues with Apple take it with the company, not people you don't know in forums. I'm 40ish, not some corporate fanboi in their parents' basement -- which yur kind of arguments seem to be meant for. I've used and am using both Apple and MS products. And Linux and FreeBSD. In fact I've cut my teeth on SunOS, back before there was OS X and Gnome. So, I could not give LESS fucks about Apple or Microsoft. I just tell it like I see it. Microsoft has been trying with their tablet for decades, and I know because I was in the IT sector all those decades. And it was always subpart, in a crude PC with a detachable monitor way. So, after nearly 2 decades of them trying, I wouldn't call making 1.3 billion revenue in 3 months with the latest Surface "impressive". Especially since Apple just made 40% more with a new product category, and with a first-generation product in only 6 months -- as opposed to after 16 years of trying to make it with the same product category (and losing money all the while on it). How is 1.3 billion in 3 months for Surface impressive, when its competitor, considered "declining" still managed to do 4-5 times the number in its last quarter?
  - gelasio 11y ago
    > First, "shill" means a paid lackey. OK. Then you're an unpaid lackey I guess. Good for you. > I'm 40ish, not some corporate fanboi in their parents' basement -- which yur kind of arguments seem to be meant for. You're the one who comes into a thread about Microsoft's success and has to immediately start comparing them to Apple who doesn't even have a competing product in the iPad or the iWatch. That's how 16 year old fanbois act. So, if the shoe fits... > How is 1.3 billion in 3 months for Surface impressive, blah blah blah. Gee, if making a billion dollars in three months isn't impressive to you then I don't know what would be. How can one company possibly be successful when another company is also successful?

coldtea is a known pro-Apple, anti-Microsoft shill who has no problem lying in an attempt to make Apple look good and make Microsoft look bad. Anyone who acted like this person in an anti-Apple way would have been kicked off of this forum already.

coldtea 11y ago
>coldtea is a known pro-Apple, anti-Microsoft shill who has no problem lying in an attempt to make Apple look good and make Microsoft look bad. Sorry, but what is this kind of Reddit-level BS? First, "shill" means a paid lackey. I don't think you know me, and I sure don't know you. So that's not just rude, it's insulting. Even more so "has no problem lying". Also "known pro-Apple, anti-Microsoft"? What are you, 16 years old? If you have issues with Apple take it with the company, not people you don't know in forums. I'm 40ish, not some corporate fanboi in their parents' basement -- which yur kind of arguments seem to be meant for. I've used and am using both Apple and MS products. And Linux and FreeBSD. In fact I've cut my teeth on SunOS, back before there was OS X and Gnome. So, I could not give LESS fucks about Apple or Microsoft. I just tell it like I see it. Microsoft has been trying with their tablet for decades, and I know because I was in the IT sector all those decades. And it was always subpart, in a crude PC with a detachable monitor way. So, after nearly 2 decades of them trying, I wouldn't call making 1.3 billion revenue in 3 months with the latest Surface "impressive". Especially since Apple just made 40% more with a new product category, and with a first-generation product in only 6 months -- as opposed to after 16 years of trying to make it with the same product category (and losing money all the while on it). How is 1.3 billion in 3 months for Surface impressive, when its competitor, considered "declining" still managed to do 4-5 times the number in its last quarter?
- gelasio 11y ago
  > First, "shill" means a paid lackey. OK. Then you're an unpaid lackey I guess. Good for you. > I'm 40ish, not some corporate fanboi in their parents' basement -- which yur kind of arguments seem to be meant for. You're the one who comes into a thread about Microsoft's success and has to immediately start comparing them to Apple who doesn't even have a competing product in the iPad or the iWatch. That's how 16 year old fanbois act. So, if the shoe fits... > How is 1.3 billion in 3 months for Surface impressive, blah blah blah. Gee, if making a billion dollars in three months isn't impressive to you then I don't know what would be. How can one company possibly be successful when another company is also successful?