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I don't know their motivation, but if I wanted to effect real change to the surveillance state in the USA, I would want the Israeli political lobby on my side i
by dflock 11y ago
I don't know their motivation, but if I wanted to effect real change to the surveillance state in the USA, I would want the Israeli political lobby on my side in Washington.
- tptacek 11y agoIsrael doesn't give a shit; they've owned up all sorts of US infrastructure, and even (famously) had double agents planted in the US.
- kasey_junk 11y agoAnd actively lobby for their early release from prison.
- ryanlol 11y agoThat's kind of expected.
- wavefunction 11y agoBut not appreciated.
- ryanlol 11y agoBy whom? Not lobbying for the release of your own spies would be very much out of the ordinary.
- kasey_junk 11y agoMy point was that even though they are allies there are normal & public interactions around spying. So yes, very much expected. The unexpected thing is people assuming allies don't spy on each other.
- dflock 11y agoAnd if they could hamper the CIA/NSA, even a little bit, they wouldn't bother?
- azernik 11y agoI feel like this quote from Yuval Steinitz just has to be a tongue-in-cheek acknowledgment of that. Or it's just the most bald-faced lie I've heard in ages - not sure which interpretation is more funny. “We know that the Americans spy on the whole world, and also on us, also on their friends. But still, it is disappointing, inter alia because, going back decades already, we have not spied nor collected intelligence nor hacked encryptions in the United States.”
- wavefunction 11y agoWell, I met a probable Israeli spy in-artfully posing as an art-student in Colorado when I was 19 working at an ISP that had purchased some wireless tech from an Israeli firm. I suspect it is fully-in-cheek.
- dsq 11y agoHow did you know he was a spy? Did he act sneaky?