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Most of these yachts are rented out by their owners. I don't see anything in the article stating he was even on the ship. I'm not sure how you can hold him re

by tw04 11y ago

Most of these yachts are rented out by their owners. I don't see anything in the article stating he was even on the ship. I'm not sure how you can hold him responsible if he wasn't even on the ship at the time this occurred.

sandworm101 11y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respondeat_superior https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respondeat_superior >> ... a legal doctrine which states that, in many circumstances, an employer is responsible for the actions of employees performed within the course of their employment.
- dogma1138 11y ago
  "When applied to physical torts, an employer-employee relationship must be established (meaning that no vicarious liability is established for work performed as an independent contractor) and the act must be committed within the scope of employment (i.e., substantially within time and geographical limits, job description and at least with partial intent to further employer's business)." Don't think that it really falls under this legal doctrine. I'm pretty sure he'll feel responsible non the less but doesn't it mean he's liable and it sure doesn't mean that it needs to be overblown in this manner. Cargo ships do much more damage to the environment on a daily basis. That said he most definitely owns the Yacht he owns several his biggest Yacht is often loaned to researchers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus_(yacht) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus_(yacht) The cause for the incident is probably more interesting as if the damage was done while mooring it begs a question why is there a mooring spot so close to a coral reserve in the first place.
  - sandworm101 11y ago
    The issue isn't who rented the boat. It's who paid the captain/crew. That is most likely some holding/management company in turn owned by Allen. Insurance is also at play. It's no different than if a bus driver crashes. The passengers on the bus aren't responsible, nor is the person who hired the bus. It is the bus owner. If the owner is not held, then the only people left are the employees. They don't earn enough to ever pay fines associated with this sort of accident. So it's either the owners or nobody.
prawn 11y ago
Potentially responsible for making good after the fact though?

by tw04 11y ago

sandworm101 11y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respondeat_superior https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respondeat_superior >> ... a legal doctrine which states that, in many circumstances, an employer is responsible for the actions of employees performed within the course of their employment.

dogma1138 11y ago
"When applied to physical torts, an employer-employee relationship must be established (meaning that no vicarious liability is established for work performed as an independent contractor) and the act must be committed within the scope of employment (i.e., substantially within time and geographical limits, job description and at least with partial intent to further employer's business)." Don't think that it really falls under this legal doctrine. I'm pretty sure he'll feel responsible non the less but doesn't it mean he's liable and it sure doesn't mean that it needs to be overblown in this manner. Cargo ships do much more damage to the environment on a daily basis. That said he most definitely owns the Yacht he owns several his biggest Yacht is often loaned to researchers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus_(yacht) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus_(yacht) The cause for the incident is probably more interesting as if the damage was done while mooring it begs a question why is there a mooring spot so close to a coral reserve in the first place.
- sandworm101 11y ago
  The issue isn't who rented the boat. It's who paid the captain/crew. That is most likely some holding/management company in turn owned by Allen. Insurance is also at play. It's no different than if a bus driver crashes. The passengers on the bus aren't responsible, nor is the person who hired the bus. It is the bus owner. If the owner is not held, then the only people left are the employees. They don't earn enough to ever pay fines associated with this sort of accident. So it's either the owners or nobody.

prawn 11y ago

Potentially responsible for making good after the fact though?