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If you want to understand the UFO story better, you should watch Mirage Men about Air Force Office of Special Investigations Agent Richard Doty, a self-admitted

If you want to understand the UFO story better, you should watch Mirage Men about Air Force Office of Special Investigations Agent Richard Doty, a self-admitted UFO disinformation agent- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6naKTTuBq14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6naKTTuBq14 The intelligence agencies aren't hiding anything about UFOs from my experience. And I don't really think the USAF is either. But the USAF did tell various people that UFOs were real and they did run a psychological operation against Paul Bennewitz, destroying his life and forever obsfucating whatever truth there is about UFOs. (None in my opinion.) Here's a good summary: http://www.openminds.tv/open-letter-u-s-air-force-allegations-ufo-disinformation/27071 http://www.openminds.tv/open-letter-u-s-air-force-allegation... *Fixed link

c0nducktr 11y ago
You linked a different movie for the Mirage Men trailer. The correct link is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6naKTTuBq14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6naKTTuBq14
kilroy123 11y ago
Here's my tin-foil-hat theory on UFO's. The whole idea of a UFOs and flying saucers was a kooky ass idea from the US government to spook the Soviets into thinking, the US actually had in their possessions aliens, and futuristic alien technology. It is too coincidental the first reports of flying saucers came in the late 40s. When the cold war first started to heat up. I think the Soviets actually bought it up and the government (CIA?) kept running with it. Why not? It was probably a cheap and effective way psychologically mess with the Soviets.
- api 11y ago
  That isn't particularly outlandish. The Red Mercury hoax is pretty well documented and very similar: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/22/magazine/the-doomsday-scam.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/22/magazine/the-doomsday-scam... The whole thing might have been a great way to 'out' spies (by tracing information flow) and generally confuse and psych out the Soviets.
- dragonwriter 11y ago
  UFOs predate the cold war; the "flying saucer" image is from that time, but that's a time when advantages of flying saucers were being discussed and experiments being tried.
  - ashark 11y ago
    The "airship sightings" are especially fun(ny). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_airship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_airship
Jerry2 11y ago
When I was a kid, I asked my grandfather, who was at that time an AF Colonel (he's now passed away), whether UFOs were real and whether he has seen aliens. He just looked at me, took me aside, and told me that UFO stories were propagated by the "boys from Langley" as a way to hide experimental aircraft testing. That way, every report of some black plane that was seen by the public, would be chalked up to UFOs and Russians wouldn't know what to think of it. We had a good laugh and I never told this to anyone. I don't think it's even a big secret anymore. Since then, I always laughed at all these UFO reports and reports of abductions etc. It's become a national meme that's ingrained into the minds of so many... yet it's a complete fabrication.
- josh2600 11y ago
  RE: Abductions, it's entirely possible that those stories could be, instead, related to MK Ultra [0] rather than Air force testing. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
  - acqq 11y ago
    Anybody who hasn't, do read to see how much they were ready to do. Abductions or just "anal probes" are nothing compared to their actions. Note the use of different drugs and the brain washing experiments after which some innocent people never recovered. E.g. "In Operation Midnight Climax, the CIA set up several brothels in San Francisco, California to obtain a selection of men who would be too embarrassed to talk about the events." (...) "In other experiments where people were given LSD without their knowledge, they were interrogated under bright lights with doctors in the background taking notes. The subjects were told that their "trips" would be extended indefinitely if they refused to reveal their secrets."
    - sangnoir 11y ago
      > Note the use of different drugs and the brain washing experiments after which some innocent people never recovered. One of the victims of MK ULTRA experiments was Harvard undergraduate student Theodore John Kaczynski (who later gained infamy as the Unabomber[1]). I can't help but to wonder if history would have turned out any different had MK ULTRA not existed 1. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/06/harvard-and-the-making-of-the-unabomber/378239/ http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/06/harvard-...
acqq 11y ago
The review of the film, a shorter useful info: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/mirage-men-film-review-568349 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/mirage-men-film-revi... For me it was too boring to watch the film. If anybody actually saw it, liked it and remembers something interesting but not mentioned in the review, please tell.

c0nducktr 11y ago

You linked a different movie for the Mirage Men trailer. The correct link is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6naKTTuBq14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6naKTTuBq14

kilroy123 11y ago

Here's my tin-foil-hat theory on UFO's. The whole idea of a UFOs and flying saucers was a kooky ass idea from the US government to spook the Soviets into thinking, the US actually had in their possessions aliens, and futuristic alien technology. It is too coincidental the first reports of flying saucers came in the late 40s. When the cold war first started to heat up. I think the Soviets actually bought it up and the government (CIA?) kept running with it. Why not? It was probably a cheap and effective way psychologically mess with the Soviets.

api 11y ago
That isn't particularly outlandish. The Red Mercury hoax is pretty well documented and very similar: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/22/magazine/the-doomsday-scam.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/22/magazine/the-doomsday-scam... The whole thing might have been a great way to 'out' spies (by tracing information flow) and generally confuse and psych out the Soviets.
dragonwriter 11y ago
UFOs predate the cold war; the "flying saucer" image is from that time, but that's a time when advantages of flying saucers were being discussed and experiments being tried.
- ashark 11y ago
  The "airship sightings" are especially fun(ny). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_airship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_airship

Jerry2 11y ago

When I was a kid, I asked my grandfather, who was at that time an AF Colonel (he's now passed away), whether UFOs were real and whether he has seen aliens. He just looked at me, took me aside, and told me that UFO stories were propagated by the "boys from Langley" as a way to hide experimental aircraft testing. That way, every report of some black plane that was seen by the public, would be chalked up to UFOs and Russians wouldn't know what to think of it. We had a good laugh and I never told this to anyone. I don't think it's even a big secret anymore. Since then, I always laughed at all these UFO reports and reports of abductions etc. It's become a national meme that's ingrained into the minds of so many... yet it's a complete fabrication.

josh2600 11y ago
RE: Abductions, it's entirely possible that those stories could be, instead, related to MK Ultra [0] rather than Air force testing. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
- acqq 11y ago
  Anybody who hasn't, do read to see how much they were ready to do. Abductions or just "anal probes" are nothing compared to their actions. Note the use of different drugs and the brain washing experiments after which some innocent people never recovered. E.g. "In Operation Midnight Climax, the CIA set up several brothels in San Francisco, California to obtain a selection of men who would be too embarrassed to talk about the events." (...) "In other experiments where people were given LSD without their knowledge, they were interrogated under bright lights with doctors in the background taking notes. The subjects were told that their "trips" would be extended indefinitely if they refused to reveal their secrets."
  - sangnoir 11y ago
    > Note the use of different drugs and the brain washing experiments after which some innocent people never recovered. One of the victims of MK ULTRA experiments was Harvard undergraduate student Theodore John Kaczynski (who later gained infamy as the Unabomber[1]). I can't help but to wonder if history would have turned out any different had MK ULTRA not existed 1. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/06/harvard-and-the-making-of-the-unabomber/378239/ http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/06/harvard-...

acqq 11y ago

The review of the film, a shorter useful info: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/mirage-men-film-review-568349 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/mirage-men-film-revi... For me it was too boring to watch the film. If anybody actually saw it, liked it and remembers something interesting but not mentioned in the review, please tell.