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JetBrains products are very powerful, well designed, customizable, and overall awesome in my experience (ReSharper and PyCharm). Looking forward to this! And re

JetBrains products are very powerful, well designed, customizable, and overall awesome in my experience (ReSharper and PyCharm). Looking forward to this! And really hoping they will have a free edition, although I doubt it.

realharo 11y ago
CLion isn't all that great. It still has major issues analyzing a lot of C++ code (false positive red squiggly lines everywhere), almost 1.5 years after the initial annoncement. Although C# should be a much easier language to deal with, so this one might turn out better.
- mateuszf 11y ago
  They already analyze C# well because of their other product (Resharper).
- taspeotis 11y ago
  ReSharper C++ (why they didn't call it RePlusPlus I'll never know) is also sorely lacking in basic functionality. Compared to opening a C# project with R#, opening a C++ project with R#++ and none of the refactoring keyboard shortcuts work ... Visual Studio just feels dead. (I love my ReSharper Ultimate license, and R#++ helps to fill in a lot of Visual Studio's blanks as far as C++ goes, but really it needs to spend another six months incubating.)
  - kmch 11y ago
    You should try Visual Assist (http://wholetomato.com/ http://wholetomato.com/) in case you haven't heard of it.
  - overgard 11y ago
    I'm pretty happy with ReSharper++'s functionality (although refactoring beyond rename seems really unreliable); but the performance is abysmal. I don't know how many hours I've spent watching the "ReSharper is thinking..." popup because I edited a resource file or something. If the next release doesn't improve things dramatically I'm going back to visual assist.
- stupidcar 11y ago
  I'd bet the main problem is that they don't use C++ much themselves internally. Trying to develop software that you don't use in anger yourself is usually a recipe for bugs and missed requirements.
  - sangnoir 11y ago
    > I'd bet the main problem is that they don't use C++ much themselves internally I doubt they use all the languages their IDEs support internally - there's just too many! (Java, PHP, Javascript, Python, C/C++, Ruby, Obj-C). The problems are probably because CLion is one of their least mature products.
  - tonyedgecombe 11y ago
    I think it's a combination of C# being much easier to parse and Resharper being a mature product.
- unfamiliar 11y ago
  It seems like they've made the classic mistake with C++ parsers of reinventing the wheel. I have never used an IDE which is capable of correctly parsing all the C++ code I've used. The notable exception is anything based on clang, which is usually flawless (as you would expect). If CLion had been based on clang then they would have saved themselves a lot of work and ended up with a better performing product. Presumably the reason they didn't had something to do with licensing.
- jaytaylor 11y ago
  Are there better IDE options out there for C++ than CLion? I agree that it's far from perfect, but it's still a lot more effective and helpful than my other alternative, vim.
rplnt 11y ago
I bought PyCharm when it was on sale (two years back?) and ended up not using it as it was too slow. So... while powerful, they are not always the best solution.

realharo 11y ago

CLion isn't all that great. It still has major issues analyzing a lot of C++ code (false positive red squiggly lines everywhere), almost 1.5 years after the initial annoncement. Although C# should be a much easier language to deal with, so this one might turn out better.

mateuszf 11y ago
They already analyze C# well because of their other product (Resharper).
taspeotis 11y ago
ReSharper C++ (why they didn't call it RePlusPlus I'll never know) is also sorely lacking in basic functionality. Compared to opening a C# project with R#, opening a C++ project with R#++ and none of the refactoring keyboard shortcuts work ... Visual Studio just feels dead. (I love my ReSharper Ultimate license, and R#++ helps to fill in a lot of Visual Studio's blanks as far as C++ goes, but really it needs to spend another six months incubating.)
- kmch 11y ago
  You should try Visual Assist (http://wholetomato.com/ http://wholetomato.com/) in case you haven't heard of it.
- overgard 11y ago
  I'm pretty happy with ReSharper++'s functionality (although refactoring beyond rename seems really unreliable); but the performance is abysmal. I don't know how many hours I've spent watching the "ReSharper is thinking..." popup because I edited a resource file or something. If the next release doesn't improve things dramatically I'm going back to visual assist.
stupidcar 11y ago
I'd bet the main problem is that they don't use C++ much themselves internally. Trying to develop software that you don't use in anger yourself is usually a recipe for bugs and missed requirements.
- sangnoir 11y ago
  > I'd bet the main problem is that they don't use C++ much themselves internally I doubt they use all the languages their IDEs support internally - there's just too many! (Java, PHP, Javascript, Python, C/C++, Ruby, Obj-C). The problems are probably because CLion is one of their least mature products.
- tonyedgecombe 11y ago
  I think it's a combination of C# being much easier to parse and Resharper being a mature product.
unfamiliar 11y ago
It seems like they've made the classic mistake with C++ parsers of reinventing the wheel. I have never used an IDE which is capable of correctly parsing all the C++ code I've used. The notable exception is anything based on clang, which is usually flawless (as you would expect). If CLion had been based on clang then they would have saved themselves a lot of work and ended up with a better performing product. Presumably the reason they didn't had something to do with licensing.
jaytaylor 11y ago
Are there better IDE options out there for C++ than CLion? I agree that it's far from perfect, but it's still a lot more effective and helpful than my other alternative, vim.

rplnt 11y ago

I bought PyCharm when it was on sale (two years back?) and ended up not using it as it was too slow. So... while powerful, they are not always the best solution.