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You have a vastly different experience and interpretation than me. First off people will stop during rush hour in Tokyo to help people. Happens all the time. T

You have a vastly different experience and interpretation than me. First off people will stop during rush hour in Tokyo to help people. Happens all the time. Tokyo is not cold. I've never seen anyone have trouble getting someone to take their picture, ever. I'm not denying your experience but I'm going to claim it's not common. Second, while it's sad people feel the need to take their own lives it is arguably the height of selfishness to do it by jumping in front of a train and putting out 50k+ people. I see no problem with recognizing that and being annoyed by it. Especially in Japan where putting your problems on someone else is the height of rudeness. And I'm sorry if you think mothers on strollers aren't a PITA on public transport in a city as busy as Tokyo. That sounds like a fully western (or maybe American POV). F everyone else, I have my needs and F you if they inconvenience hundreds or thousands of people.

jamespo 11y ago
Strollers are a PITA on public transport but what's the alternative? This post seems to be lacking empathy.
- pbhjpbhj 11y ago
  Assuming the stroller is synonym for a pushchair/buggy then the best alternative IMO, unless the parent is infirm in some way, is a sling and backpack.
- BostonEnginerd 11y ago
  My issue isn't with small strollers, it's with their Hummer sized pneumatic tired cousins.
- iofj 11y ago
  After having 3 kids and going through a lot of strollers I can answer that a bit. A way to make a big improvement for yourself and for others is to buy the $50 basic stroller. Not the $500 "full-featured" one. Far better everywhere, and far more considerate of everybody else on pavement, public transport and everywhere else. This: http://www.toysrus.com/graphics/product_images/pTRU1-3490966reg.jpg http://www.toysrus.com/graphics/product_images/pTRU1-3490966... Not this: http://www.bobgear.com/uploads/products/stroller-strides-fitness-stroller-17.jpg http://www.bobgear.com/uploads/products/stroller-strides-fit... You'd think that a $500 stroller would be better, but after trying 3 of those it's just not true. A $50 one folds up to the size of large umbrella, and weighs 2-3 kg. A $500 one folds up to the size of a suitcase, weighs 20-30 kg. Even folded out they're smaller. So it should be pretty obvious that a $50 one is far, far better anytime you have it with you and aren't using it as a stroller. Which is really quite often : in the car, on stairs, anywhere you're expected to sit down (from parties, at friend's houses, even cinemas). And truth be told, they're better when you're using them as well. They don't roll as nicely, but they're so much lighter. Also, you have zero issues with breaking them.
  - nimnio 11y ago
    The Toys R Us stroller you linked weighs about 15lb, I think. The Bob Stroller weighs about 25lb. I challenge you to find a 30kg/66lb stroller.
kbutler 11y ago
> And I'm sorry if you think mothers on strollers aren't a PITA on public transport in a city as busy as Tokyo. That sounds like a fully western (or maybe American POV). F everyone else, I have my needs and F you if they inconvenience hundreds or thousands of people. Wow. I feel sorry for disabled people in wheelchairs around you. And for your mother.

jamespo 11y ago

Strollers are a PITA on public transport but what's the alternative? This post seems to be lacking empathy.

pbhjpbhj 11y ago
Assuming the stroller is synonym for a pushchair/buggy then the best alternative IMO, unless the parent is infirm in some way, is a sling and backpack.
BostonEnginerd 11y ago
My issue isn't with small strollers, it's with their Hummer sized pneumatic tired cousins.
iofj 11y ago
After having 3 kids and going through a lot of strollers I can answer that a bit. A way to make a big improvement for yourself and for others is to buy the $50 basic stroller. Not the $500 "full-featured" one. Far better everywhere, and far more considerate of everybody else on pavement, public transport and everywhere else. This: http://www.toysrus.com/graphics/product_images/pTRU1-3490966reg.jpg http://www.toysrus.com/graphics/product_images/pTRU1-3490966... Not this: http://www.bobgear.com/uploads/products/stroller-strides-fitness-stroller-17.jpg http://www.bobgear.com/uploads/products/stroller-strides-fit... You'd think that a $500 stroller would be better, but after trying 3 of those it's just not true. A $50 one folds up to the size of large umbrella, and weighs 2-3 kg. A $500 one folds up to the size of a suitcase, weighs 20-30 kg. Even folded out they're smaller. So it should be pretty obvious that a $50 one is far, far better anytime you have it with you and aren't using it as a stroller. Which is really quite often : in the car, on stairs, anywhere you're expected to sit down (from parties, at friend's houses, even cinemas). And truth be told, they're better when you're using them as well. They don't roll as nicely, but they're so much lighter. Also, you have zero issues with breaking them.
- nimnio 11y ago
  The Toys R Us stroller you linked weighs about 15lb, I think. The Bob Stroller weighs about 25lb. I challenge you to find a 30kg/66lb stroller.

kbutler 11y ago

> And I'm sorry if you think mothers on strollers aren't a PITA on public transport in a city as busy as Tokyo. That sounds like a fully western (or maybe American POV). F everyone else, I have my needs and F you if they inconvenience hundreds or thousands of people. Wow. I feel sorry for disabled people in wheelchairs around you. And for your mother.