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As a science I find nutrition grossly deficient, despite food being so obviously important and occupying so much of humanity's attention. It seems that somethi

by Gatsky 11y ago

As a science I find nutrition grossly deficient, despite food being so obviously important and occupying so much of humanity's attention. It seems that something like this would be at least as good as food diaries: http://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/google-calorie-counter-news/ http://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/google-calorie-coun... EDIT: Can't find any trace of it since that one press release in June 2015. Looks like it isn't being developed.

stinos 11y ago
As a science I find nutrition grossly deficient Imo it's not really the science itself, but rather the results which are deficient and the article lays out pretty well why that is. That, combined with the huge amounts of pseudo-science and almost-religious takes on what and how to eat (esp. by people who read a popular food book and think it is The Sole Truth) definitely creates an image that the whole of food science is utter BS. It seems that something like this would be at least as good as food diaries It would be relatively easy to test properly how correct the calory estimate is. Which wouldn't be bad maybe, I know a bunch of people who sort of swear by it for estimating clary intake. (not sure if it's the same app, but they definitely use something like it. And also tend to think everything it says is 100% correct..)
- legulere 11y ago
  Don't forget that there's also tons of misinformation spread by companies that have an interest in it: coca-cola spends millions to tell us that drinking as much cola as we want is okay as long as we exercise enough. But they don't tell us the ridiculous amount of exercise we would need to do to burn the calories of a small glass of cola.
  - stinos 11y ago
    Ha, indeed forgot about that. Good point!
  - phalangion 11y ago
    It's not really a ridiculous amount of exercise for a small glass of soda. A can of Coke has 140 calories. 30 minutes on an exercise bike will burn around 300 calories for an average sized man. So it's around 15 minutes of exercise to burn off a Coke. Hardly a ridiculous amount.
    - Vraxx 11y ago
      Fair point, but a small glass of soda isn't exactly the typical serving size. Go to any gas station and that small glass of soda option got turned into 3 or 4 as your default option. As for the claim of drinking as much as you want as long as you exercise, I could see that easily getting out of hand with those types of conversion ratios.
amelius 11y ago
Just wait until the field of nutrigenomics catches on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutrigenomics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutrigenomics
- vanderZwan 11y ago
  Isn't that putting the cart in front of the horse? That is, isn't poorly conducted nutrition research getting in the way of doing proper nutrigenomics research, meaning nutrigenomics can't really catch on until that is fixed?

by Gatsky 11y ago

stinos 11y ago

As a science I find nutrition grossly deficient Imo it's not really the science itself, but rather the results which are deficient and the article lays out pretty well why that is. That, combined with the huge amounts of pseudo-science and almost-religious takes on what and how to eat (esp. by people who read a popular food book and think it is The Sole Truth) definitely creates an image that the whole of food science is utter BS. It seems that something like this would be at least as good as food diaries It would be relatively easy to test properly how correct the calory estimate is. Which wouldn't be bad maybe, I know a bunch of people who sort of swear by it for estimating clary intake. (not sure if it's the same app, but they definitely use something like it. And also tend to think everything it says is 100% correct..)

legulere 11y ago
Don't forget that there's also tons of misinformation spread by companies that have an interest in it: coca-cola spends millions to tell us that drinking as much cola as we want is okay as long as we exercise enough. But they don't tell us the ridiculous amount of exercise we would need to do to burn the calories of a small glass of cola.
- stinos 11y ago
  Ha, indeed forgot about that. Good point!
- phalangion 11y ago
  It's not really a ridiculous amount of exercise for a small glass of soda. A can of Coke has 140 calories. 30 minutes on an exercise bike will burn around 300 calories for an average sized man. So it's around 15 minutes of exercise to burn off a Coke. Hardly a ridiculous amount.
  - Vraxx 11y ago
    Fair point, but a small glass of soda isn't exactly the typical serving size. Go to any gas station and that small glass of soda option got turned into 3 or 4 as your default option. As for the claim of drinking as much as you want as long as you exercise, I could see that easily getting out of hand with those types of conversion ratios.

amelius 11y ago

Just wait until the field of nutrigenomics catches on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutrigenomics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutrigenomics

vanderZwan 11y ago
Isn't that putting the cart in front of the horse? That is, isn't poorly conducted nutrition research getting in the way of doing proper nutrigenomics research, meaning nutrigenomics can't really catch on until that is fixed?