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A different claim, same bullshit "science". " According to the CDC one in five Americans have ADHD, anxiety, or depression. Impacting productivity, focus, and

by EC1 11y ago

A different claim, same bullshit "science". " According to the CDC one in five Americans have ADHD, anxiety, or depression. Impacting productivity, focus, and mood. We can help, with ThinkSuite!" Chemicals can't even help me, how would ThinkSuite? If I could cure this crap with a site, I would, but we can't.

PhasmaFelis 11y ago
> Chemicals can't even help me, how would ThinkSuite? That doesn't follow. Drugs aren't automatically better or more effective than non-drug therapies.
- cbd1984 11y ago
  But known, proven therapies are better than apps with no peer review.
  - pbhjpbhj 11y ago
    That's not a factual claim. Known, proven therapies are known and proven, period. They aren't automatically better than an untested therapy, that would mean no new therapy could ever be an improvement. Your statement is illogical. FWIW I'm making no claim here as to the efficacy of either proven or unreviewed therapies just calling out unsound reasoning.
lettergram 11y ago
Actually, we respectfully disagree. The Lumonosity doesn't have any feedback to their systems, and are therefore WAY different than ours. We cannot claim it will solve your issues, but it could (stress the could) help. We accomplish this by providing neurofeedback[1]. [1] http://synaptitude.me/blog/neurofeedback-in-200-words/ http://synaptitude.me/blog/neurofeedback-in-200-words/ Essentially, we can help cope with the issues by helping you identify bad practices. That's it. Turns out many of us don't realize when we start losing attention, or feeling sad. We just suddenly realize we do feel bad. The idea is to make you more aware of what makes you feel bad/lose attention, when you start feeling that way so you can better control it. Here are some links to some studies (more are coming out soon): [2] (2009) http://eeg.sagepub.com/content/40/3/180.short http://eeg.sagepub.com/content/40/3/180.short [3] (2009) http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-7610.2008.02033.x/full http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-7610.2008.... [4] (1995) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8801245 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8801245 The end goal of our system is to use it in combination with other therapies, drugs, and medical professionals to determine the effectiveness of a therapy/drug on an individual and improve it. Coupled with that we can provide better coping skills, and our own therapy called neurofeedback (as mentioned).
- chris_wot 11y ago
  I have ADHD. I'm fully aware of my impulse control issues. Identifying bad practices is NOT treatment.
  - DenisM 11y ago
    Are you seeking help? If not, I suggest seeing a psychiatrist - they have the most experience, much more so than general practitioners.
    - chris_wot 11y ago
      Appreciate you asking, and great advise - I am :-) actually, when I was younger my parents sought help early for me, and through some of the best specialists in the field. Then for a decade and a half I went it along, and whilst I did ok, overall I think I struggled so I'm getting professional medical help, as well as seeing a professional life coach experienced in helping people with ADHD. It's been good overall!
      - neo_optimus 11y ago
        Can you share your experience on what worked/didn't work for you (medical and non-medical) and why? I ask 'why' as most ADD/ADHD people have similar symptoms, but their root cause can vary. Your answer can give insights to some of us out here!
        chris_wot 11y ago
        There is no magic cure, I still struggle with it. But it's easier than before, I found medication helps but ONLY if you have it reviewed regularly. Seeing someone to discuss issues with is very helpful. I see a guy who isn't a medical professional but is older and has the condition himself - that's incredibly helpful :-) Probably less helpful to others is my supportive wife. I probably drive her to distraction at times, which feels awful as I don't mean to. But she forgives me and ensures I don't forget to take my medicine, which is unbelievably important. That's obviously not helpful if you aren't in a significant relationship though. Wish I had more words of wisdom. I'm still working it all out myself to be honest. I think it's a lifetime struggle, but worthwhile fighting.

by EC1 11y ago

PhasmaFelis 11y ago

> Chemicals can't even help me, how would ThinkSuite? That doesn't follow. Drugs aren't automatically better or more effective than non-drug therapies.

cbd1984 11y ago
But known, proven therapies are better than apps with no peer review.
- pbhjpbhj 11y ago
  That's not a factual claim. Known, proven therapies are known and proven, period. They aren't automatically better than an untested therapy, that would mean no new therapy could ever be an improvement. Your statement is illogical. FWIW I'm making no claim here as to the efficacy of either proven or unreviewed therapies just calling out unsound reasoning.

lettergram 11y ago

Actually, we respectfully disagree. The Lumonosity doesn't have any feedback to their systems, and are therefore WAY different than ours. We cannot claim it will solve your issues, but it could (stress the could) help. We accomplish this by providing neurofeedback[1]. [1] http://synaptitude.me/blog/neurofeedback-in-200-words/ http://synaptitude.me/blog/neurofeedback-in-200-words/ Essentially, we can help cope with the issues by helping you identify bad practices. That's it. Turns out many of us don't realize when we start losing attention, or feeling sad. We just suddenly realize we do feel bad. The idea is to make you more aware of what makes you feel bad/lose attention, when you start feeling that way so you can better control it. Here are some links to some studies (more are coming out soon): [2] (2009) http://eeg.sagepub.com/content/40/3/180.short http://eeg.sagepub.com/content/40/3/180.short [3] (2009) http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-7610.2008.02033.x/full http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-7610.2008.... [4] (1995) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8801245 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8801245 The end goal of our system is to use it in combination with other therapies, drugs, and medical professionals to determine the effectiveness of a therapy/drug on an individual and improve it. Coupled with that we can provide better coping skills, and our own therapy called neurofeedback (as mentioned).

chris_wot 11y ago
I have ADHD. I'm fully aware of my impulse control issues. Identifying bad practices is NOT treatment.
- DenisM 11y ago
  Are you seeking help? If not, I suggest seeing a psychiatrist - they have the most experience, much more so than general practitioners.
  - chris_wot 11y ago
    Appreciate you asking, and great advise - I am :-) actually, when I was younger my parents sought help early for me, and through some of the best specialists in the field. Then for a decade and a half I went it along, and whilst I did ok, overall I think I struggled so I'm getting professional medical help, as well as seeing a professional life coach experienced in helping people with ADHD. It's been good overall!
    - neo_optimus 11y ago
      Can you share your experience on what worked/didn't work for you (medical and non-medical) and why? I ask 'why' as most ADD/ADHD people have similar symptoms, but their root cause can vary. Your answer can give insights to some of us out here!
      - chris_wot 11y ago
        There is no magic cure, I still struggle with it. But it's easier than before, I found medication helps but ONLY if you have it reviewed regularly. Seeing someone to discuss issues with is very helpful. I see a guy who isn't a medical professional but is older and has the condition himself - that's incredibly helpful :-) Probably less helpful to others is my supportive wife. I probably drive her to distraction at times, which feels awful as I don't mean to. But she forgives me and ensures I don't forget to take my medicine, which is unbelievably important. That's obviously not helpful if you aren't in a significant relationship though. Wish I had more words of wisdom. I'm still working it all out myself to be honest. I think it's a lifetime struggle, but worthwhile fighting.