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I wonder if he means he is going to lead efforts to build an AI such as Jarvis with some help from his friends at FAIR or whether he's actually going to sit dow

I wonder if he means he is going to lead efforts to build an AI such as Jarvis with some help from his friends at FAIR or whether he's actually going to sit down and train his own models (for recognizing his family's faces for example). Quite motivating actually to see someone who is leading a billion dollar company to find the time to study machine learning on the side and apply it.

x5n1 11y ago
I seriously doubt Zuck is that smart or capable. Intelligence wise Zuck is no Bill Gates. Go look at what Facebook looked like when it was just Zuck working on it. Zuck has not been honing his skills at networking or AI or deep learning for 10 years, he's been leading a company. He's not going to write any of this. Zuck wants to come off like he's the brains behind all of it... and sure he has business sense and billions of dollars to put that business sense to the world. Technically he's very limited. tl;dr Zuck is not Iron Man.
- leesalminen 11y ago
  To be fair, it did look "better" than MySpace. I use quotes because I preferred MySpace's customizability but I understand why uniformity won out.
- mjfl 11y ago
  That's pretty harsh considering you don't really know him at all, and he was at least smart enough to build a company that was good enough to "get lucky" and balloon to the billion dollar one it is now.
  - x5n1 11y ago
    It's hardly judging. Considering the amount of effort it takes to master a single language or even a set of algos or putting those algos into a running program. Unless you have been a programmer the last 10 years, you're a manager. A manager should not try to take credit for what his programmers do. That's really the really stupid thing about Stark, he did it all himself. No one does it all him self. Everyone stands on the shoulder of giants.
    - mjfl 11y ago
      But I think saying "Mark Zuckerberg had help building facebook" is different from saying "Mark Zuckerberg can't possibly implement the new AI algos on his own", and the latter seems to imply he's some sort of an idiot, which he's not.
      - pedrosorio 11y ago
        Doesn't sound like he is planning to implement new AI algorithms on his own: "Thanks buddy! I'm still deciding between using the FB environment and AWS. The FB environment gets me access to all of the great stuff the Facebook AI research team has worked on, so I'll probably do that." (https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10102577175875681?comment_id=1193499537344277&reply_comment_id=1193505944010303&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R9%22%7D https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10102577175875681?commen...)
- pazimzadeh 11y ago
  Take a look at early versions of Windows.
  - x5n1 11y ago
    Not talking about how it looked. Talking about what was required in terms of technical skill to produce that. Gates was a pretty good programmer in his teens. Zuck was a LAMP developer, I very much doubt he matured from a LAMP developer to a AI guru in 10 years while running a billion dollar company.
    - pazimzadeh 11y ago
      You did say: > Go look at what Facebook looked like when it was just Zuck working on it
- sjtgraham 11y ago
  He learned Mandarin Chinese in one year. I don't think there is any question of intellectual capacity.
  - x5n1 11y ago
    http://www.theguardian.com/technology/video/2014/oct/23/mark-zuckerberg-beijing-speaks-mandarin-video http://www.theguardian.com/technology/video/2014/oct/23/mark... http://qz.com/532834/mark-zuckerbergs-20-minute-speech-in-clumsy-mandarin-is-his-latest-attempt-to-woo-china/ http://qz.com/532834/mark-zuckerbergs-20-minute-speech-in-cl... Does not seem as if he learned it. He's learning it. See this is the sort of shit that I am really against. He speaks a few words and everyone is like see amazing. See he created Facebook all by himself, amazing! Let's do some more hero worship.
    - pbhjpbhj 11y ago
      Being able to give a 20 minute speech in a passable - if poorly pronounced - second language seems like a level at which one could say they "knew" that other language. Clearly no-one ever has learnt a language completely. I think it proves he's no layabout at the very least.
frostmatthew 11y ago
The penultimate paragraph ends with "But it's a different kind of rewarding to build things yourself, so this year my personal challenge is to do that." and the final paragraph begins "This should be a fun intellectual challenge to code this for myself."
coupdejarnac 11y ago
I saw an article somewhere, I don't remember where, about the $10 Echo/Alexa. He could customize that and put one in every room/dungeon in his house(s).

x5n1 11y ago

I seriously doubt Zuck is that smart or capable. Intelligence wise Zuck is no Bill Gates. Go look at what Facebook looked like when it was just Zuck working on it. Zuck has not been honing his skills at networking or AI or deep learning for 10 years, he's been leading a company. He's not going to write any of this. Zuck wants to come off like he's the brains behind all of it... and sure he has business sense and billions of dollars to put that business sense to the world. Technically he's very limited. tl;dr Zuck is not Iron Man.

leesalminen 11y ago
To be fair, it did look "better" than MySpace. I use quotes because I preferred MySpace's customizability but I understand why uniformity won out.
mjfl 11y ago
That's pretty harsh considering you don't really know him at all, and he was at least smart enough to build a company that was good enough to "get lucky" and balloon to the billion dollar one it is now.
- x5n1 11y ago
  It's hardly judging. Considering the amount of effort it takes to master a single language or even a set of algos or putting those algos into a running program. Unless you have been a programmer the last 10 years, you're a manager. A manager should not try to take credit for what his programmers do. That's really the really stupid thing about Stark, he did it all himself. No one does it all him self. Everyone stands on the shoulder of giants.
  - mjfl 11y ago
    But I think saying "Mark Zuckerberg had help building facebook" is different from saying "Mark Zuckerberg can't possibly implement the new AI algos on his own", and the latter seems to imply he's some sort of an idiot, which he's not.
    - pedrosorio 11y ago
      Doesn't sound like he is planning to implement new AI algorithms on his own: "Thanks buddy! I'm still deciding between using the FB environment and AWS. The FB environment gets me access to all of the great stuff the Facebook AI research team has worked on, so I'll probably do that." (https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10102577175875681?comment_id=1193499537344277&reply_comment_id=1193505944010303&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R9%22%7D https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10102577175875681?commen...)
pazimzadeh 11y ago
Take a look at early versions of Windows.
- x5n1 11y ago
  Not talking about how it looked. Talking about what was required in terms of technical skill to produce that. Gates was a pretty good programmer in his teens. Zuck was a LAMP developer, I very much doubt he matured from a LAMP developer to a AI guru in 10 years while running a billion dollar company.
  - pazimzadeh 11y ago
    You did say: > Go look at what Facebook looked like when it was just Zuck working on it
sjtgraham 11y ago
He learned Mandarin Chinese in one year. I don't think there is any question of intellectual capacity.
- x5n1 11y ago
  http://www.theguardian.com/technology/video/2014/oct/23/mark-zuckerberg-beijing-speaks-mandarin-video http://www.theguardian.com/technology/video/2014/oct/23/mark... http://qz.com/532834/mark-zuckerbergs-20-minute-speech-in-clumsy-mandarin-is-his-latest-attempt-to-woo-china/ http://qz.com/532834/mark-zuckerbergs-20-minute-speech-in-cl... Does not seem as if he learned it. He's learning it. See this is the sort of shit that I am really against. He speaks a few words and everyone is like see amazing. See he created Facebook all by himself, amazing! Let's do some more hero worship.
  - pbhjpbhj 11y ago
    Being able to give a 20 minute speech in a passable - if poorly pronounced - second language seems like a level at which one could say they "knew" that other language. Clearly no-one ever has learnt a language completely. I think it proves he's no layabout at the very least.

frostmatthew 11y ago

The penultimate paragraph ends with "But it's a different kind of rewarding to build things yourself, so this year my personal challenge is to do that." and the final paragraph begins "This should be a fun intellectual challenge to code this for myself."

coupdejarnac 11y ago

I saw an article somewhere, I don't remember where, about the $10 Echo/Alexa. He could customize that and put one in every room/dungeon in his house(s).