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McGraw-Hill axed from iPad launch after CEO leaks on TV

51 points by transburgh 17y ago

cmelbye 17y ago
Macmillian is McGraw-Hill, and they're on that slide along with the others.
- stephencelis 17y ago
  http://www.macmillan.com http://www.macmillan.com Macmillan is not McGraw-Hill.
  - quellhorst 17y ago
    http://www.mhschool.com/ http://www.mhschool.com/ From the above url, its hard to tell if the companies are different.
    - stephencelis 17y ago
      throw_away mentioned the joint venture, but its easiest to see the difference if you look at Macmillan's logo (nowhere to be found at mhschool.com), and maybe more importantly, Macmillan/McGraw-Hill's titles, which are all educational, and not quite what you'd expect from one of the big 5 advertised at today's Stevenote. In fact, the joint venture ended awhile ago. Some context: [In] 1989, McGraw-Hill entered into a 50/50 joint venture with Macmillan, combining the elementary, secondary, and vocational education businesses of both companies[...] [...] In 1993, the company bought out Macmillan's half of the Macmillan/McGraw-Hill School Publishing Company[...] http://www.answers.com/topic/the-mcgraw-hill-companies-inc http://www.answers.com/topic/the-mcgraw-hill-companies-inc
- throw_away 17y ago
  I think Macmillan/McGraw-Hill was just a joint venture they have in elementary school textbooks. Macmillan is private, while McGraw is public, so I don't think either is owned by the other.
jmount 17y ago
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2000/08/02/ http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2000/08/02/
- barrkel 17y ago
  Indeed, this is the first thing I thought of when I read about McGraw chirping up: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/00/07/19/apple_turns_cold_shoulder_towards_ati_at_macworld.html http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/00/07/19/apple_turns_co... Etc.
tibbon 17y ago
Not that McGraw-Hill published Harry Potter (because they didn't) but could have you imagined how much a publisher would have flipped out if Steve Jobs had leaked the ending of the final Harry Potter books the day before it came out (had he known the contents)? When I saw this guy on TV I was thinking, "What the hell is he thinking- there's no way Apple is sanctioning this"
- patio11 17y ago
  That leak would have sounded like: "Wow, I just got done with the new Harry Potter book. It is amazing -- it has, like, magic and stuff, and there are these three kids, and they keep saving the world. We're so happy to have it on the iPad -- it is going to sell a whole lot of copies." i.e. it only matters if you're a legendarily obsessive control freak.
  - netcan 17y ago
    Not exactly. It's leaking a secret. "Harry Potter has wizards in it" wasn't a secret.
    - patio11 17y ago
      Right. Mind if I read a few titles from Hacker News the day before the exec mentioned the Apple Tablet? Apple Execs Downright Giddy About The Tablet (techcrunch.com) Industries Apple's Tablet Could Shake Up (popularmechanics.com) Apple Tablet 'Isn't Going To Cost Anywhere Near $1,000' (businessinsider.com) Apple Tablet: Bestest, Coolest, Greatest Thing Ever (markevanstech.com) Apple's tall order may be making tablets viable (sfgate.com) "Flurry Notices Cupertino-based Users Testing Apps on Apple Tablet" The only way this secret could have been less secretive was if it had been passed to the CIA with explicit instructions that under no circumstances was it to be leaked to the New York Times.
      - ErrantX 17y ago
        except none of that was verifiable or insider info; this wasn't speculation, but hard fact (and something new - the e-book store)
ecq 17y ago
http://www.linkedin.com/companies/macmillanmcgraw-hill http://www.linkedin.com/companies/macmillanmcgraw-hill looks like macmillan and mcgraw-hill are the same companies.
- stephencelis 17y ago
  They're not ;) See below, or, http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1083043 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1083043
noonespecial 17y ago
That's damn near Seinfeldian. No pad for you! One Year!
JunkDNA 17y ago
"Either way, it’s a concrete lesson in just how far removed the publishing industry can be from reality" I'm sorry but this is an example of how far-removed the Silicon Valley echo chamber can be from reality. When you're dealing with people far removed from the tech field, they have a very different set of ideas about what is important.
theprodigy 17y ago
Apple and Mcgraw Hill need each other. Mcgraw needs the distribution platform and hardware and Apple needs the content. They will forgive and forget what happened.

51 points by transburgh 17y ago

cmelbye 17y ago

Macmillian is McGraw-Hill, and they're on that slide along with the others.

stephencelis 17y ago
http://www.macmillan.com http://www.macmillan.com Macmillan is not McGraw-Hill.
- quellhorst 17y ago
  http://www.mhschool.com/ http://www.mhschool.com/ From the above url, its hard to tell if the companies are different.
  - stephencelis 17y ago
    throw_away mentioned the joint venture, but its easiest to see the difference if you look at Macmillan's logo (nowhere to be found at mhschool.com), and maybe more importantly, Macmillan/McGraw-Hill's titles, which are all educational, and not quite what you'd expect from one of the big 5 advertised at today's Stevenote. In fact, the joint venture ended awhile ago. Some context: [In] 1989, McGraw-Hill entered into a 50/50 joint venture with Macmillan, combining the elementary, secondary, and vocational education businesses of both companies[...] [...] In 1993, the company bought out Macmillan's half of the Macmillan/McGraw-Hill School Publishing Company[...] http://www.answers.com/topic/the-mcgraw-hill-companies-inc http://www.answers.com/topic/the-mcgraw-hill-companies-inc
throw_away 17y ago
I think Macmillan/McGraw-Hill was just a joint venture they have in elementary school textbooks. Macmillan is private, while McGraw is public, so I don't think either is owned by the other.

jmount 17y ago

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2000/08/02/ http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2000/08/02/

barrkel 17y ago
Indeed, this is the first thing I thought of when I read about McGraw chirping up: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/00/07/19/apple_turns_cold_shoulder_towards_ati_at_macworld.html http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/00/07/19/apple_turns_co... Etc.

tibbon 17y ago

Not that McGraw-Hill published Harry Potter (because they didn't) but could have you imagined how much a publisher would have flipped out if Steve Jobs had leaked the ending of the final Harry Potter books the day before it came out (had he known the contents)? When I saw this guy on TV I was thinking, "What the hell is he thinking- there's no way Apple is sanctioning this"

patio11 17y ago
That leak would have sounded like: "Wow, I just got done with the new Harry Potter book. It is amazing -- it has, like, magic and stuff, and there are these three kids, and they keep saving the world. We're so happy to have it on the iPad -- it is going to sell a whole lot of copies." i.e. it only matters if you're a legendarily obsessive control freak.
- netcan 17y ago
  Not exactly. It's leaking a secret. "Harry Potter has wizards in it" wasn't a secret.
  - patio11 17y ago
    Right. Mind if I read a few titles from Hacker News the day before the exec mentioned the Apple Tablet? Apple Execs Downright Giddy About The Tablet (techcrunch.com) Industries Apple's Tablet Could Shake Up (popularmechanics.com) Apple Tablet 'Isn't Going To Cost Anywhere Near $1,000' (businessinsider.com) Apple Tablet: Bestest, Coolest, Greatest Thing Ever (markevanstech.com) Apple's tall order may be making tablets viable (sfgate.com) "Flurry Notices Cupertino-based Users Testing Apps on Apple Tablet" The only way this secret could have been less secretive was if it had been passed to the CIA with explicit instructions that under no circumstances was it to be leaked to the New York Times.
    - ErrantX 17y ago
      except none of that was verifiable or insider info; this wasn't speculation, but hard fact (and something new - the e-book store)

ecq 17y ago

http://www.linkedin.com/companies/macmillanmcgraw-hill http://www.linkedin.com/companies/macmillanmcgraw-hill looks like macmillan and mcgraw-hill are the same companies.

stephencelis 17y ago
They're not ;) See below, or, http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1083043 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1083043

noonespecial 17y ago

That's damn near Seinfeldian. No pad for you! One Year!

JunkDNA 17y ago

"Either way, it’s a concrete lesson in just how far removed the publishing industry can be from reality" I'm sorry but this is an example of how far-removed the Silicon Valley echo chamber can be from reality. When you're dealing with people far removed from the tech field, they have a very different set of ideas about what is important.

theprodigy 17y ago

Apple and Mcgraw Hill need each other. Mcgraw needs the distribution platform and hardware and Apple needs the content. They will forgive and forget what happened.