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> As someone whose business relies on Linode currently to function Perhaps its time to consider some failover at another host. Same goes for anyone solely depe

by nly 11y ago

> As someone whose business relies on Linode currently to function Perhaps its time to consider some failover at another host. Same goes for anyone solely dependent on anyone.

silverlight 11y ago
Certainly what we're in the process of doing.
- mwcampbell 11y ago
  I'm surprised you haven't completely jumped ship already, considering that there are two other providers in particular that offer very similar specs and prices to Linode. Where I work, we moved our primary infrastructure off of Linode the night after the attacks started.
  - workitout 11y ago
    I've tried a lot over the years, no one can compare to the VPS quality Linode provides is what I found.
  - brandon272 11y ago
    All (major) providers suffer from DDoS attacks.
    - tshtf 11y ago
      When was the last successful sustained (1 week plus) CloudFlare, GCE, or AWS DDoS attack?
      - brandon272 11y ago
        I have no idea. CloudFlare doesn't offer VPS instances. Google and Amazon are in a league of their own and, last I checked, don't offer the similar services at the same prices with the same level of support and same controls. Amazon might send you a nice bill at the end of the attack depending on what type it was. DigitalOcean, as an example, routinely receives DDoS attacks and will just nullroute your VPS automatically until the attack ends.
        nly 11y ago
        There are VPS providers that offer DDoS protection in the 10-20Gbps range, but that is a piddle in the ocean these days.
        nickpsecurity 11y ago
        Which ones and protection against what attacks?
        nly 11y ago
        Ramnode, Vultr, others.
        adamzoz 11y ago
        Its a concern of mine with AWS, no downtime but a $30k for the day of fun bill. Got to tie up this loose end before I wake up broke one day.
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pbowyer 11y ago
What's the current status for Database failover? MySQL in my case - to mirror that is what's been holding me back. What happens with 1/10 second's database records not replicated? That could be a successful transaction on one, and no record of it on the other?
- mschuster91 11y ago
  > What happens with 1/10 second's database records not replicated? You can use a multi-master setup and strict consistency checks, though.
  - scurvy 11y ago
    Multi-master MySQL is generally regarded to be a very, very bad idea. Single master with multiple GTID replicas and promoting a replica to master upon failure is BCOP.
jafingi 11y ago
How do you guys re-route traffic for your load balancer to another in another data center? If you change your DNS record it would take x time before it has propagated. Say I have one server setup on Linode London and one duplicated on DO Amsterdam. How do I quickly re-route the traffic from my two main load balancers London to Amsterdam without much propagation time?
- atmosx 11y ago
  You cab use round-robin DNS ... Keep two DB in sync between different hosts/providers and effectively switch the DNS if host1 or host2 goes down. However this setup is easy for a kind of applications but may not be suited for other kind of apps.
- scurvy 11y ago
  Keep TTL's low (3-5 minutes). Things don't have to happen instantly. Clients understand. You had a bad day on the Internet. Guess what, stuff happens. Remember when "XYZ company down for 2 hours" made headlines? Yeah, that was a long time ago. Downtime is more or less accepted these days. Sure, some hothead customers will flip out and leave. You were probably not going to meet their expectations sometime and lose them eventually. Let them become someone else's nightmare.* * This is for an answer for the average "Hey I run a website or two" question. If you're asking and you are dealing with financial transactions or ad networks, well, you're asking in the wrong place and you should probably hire someone that knows how BGP anycasting works.
  - lsc 11y ago
    >* This is for an answer for the average "Hey I run a website or two" question. If you're asking and you are dealing with financial transactions or ad networks, well, you're asking in the wrong place and you should probably hire someone that knows how BGP anycasting works. Eh, usually you just bgp anycast the DNS server. If you anycast just your DNS server, you are pretty much in the same pickle as if you host your dns with someone else who runs a reliable dns server (and have them do the anycast) - the pickle is that there's a minimum ttl. Now you can set up a redirector server and anycast that, and like 3xx redirect all your requests (or more often just the first request) and that's better, really, 'cause that redirect can be changed quickly and on a per-request (or more often per-session) basis... but while I know a thousand companies that will sell you anycast DNS service, I don't know anyone who will sell someone with a vps customer budget an anycast'd redirector service.

by nly 11y ago

> As someone whose business relies on Linode currently to function Perhaps its time to consider some failover at another host. Same goes for anyone solely dependent on anyone.

silverlight 11y ago

Certainly what we're in the process of doing.

mwcampbell 11y ago
I'm surprised you haven't completely jumped ship already, considering that there are two other providers in particular that offer very similar specs and prices to Linode. Where I work, we moved our primary infrastructure off of Linode the night after the attacks started.
- workitout 11y ago
  I've tried a lot over the years, no one can compare to the VPS quality Linode provides is what I found.
- brandon272 11y ago
  All (major) providers suffer from DDoS attacks.
  - tshtf 11y ago
    When was the last successful sustained (1 week plus) CloudFlare, GCE, or AWS DDoS attack?
    - brandon272 11y ago
      I have no idea. CloudFlare doesn't offer VPS instances. Google and Amazon are in a league of their own and, last I checked, don't offer the similar services at the same prices with the same level of support and same controls. Amazon might send you a nice bill at the end of the attack depending on what type it was. DigitalOcean, as an example, routinely receives DDoS attacks and will just nullroute your VPS automatically until the attack ends.
      - nly 11y ago
        There are VPS providers that offer DDoS protection in the 10-20Gbps range, but that is a piddle in the ocean these days.
        nickpsecurity 11y ago
        Which ones and protection against what attacks?
        nly 11y ago
        Ramnode, Vultr, others.
      - adamzoz 11y ago
        Its a concern of mine with AWS, no downtime but a $30k for the day of fun bill. Got to tie up this loose end before I wake up broke one day.

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pbowyer 11y ago

What's the current status for Database failover? MySQL in my case - to mirror that is what's been holding me back. What happens with 1/10 second's database records not replicated? That could be a successful transaction on one, and no record of it on the other?

mschuster91 11y ago
> What happens with 1/10 second's database records not replicated? You can use a multi-master setup and strict consistency checks, though.
- scurvy 11y ago
  Multi-master MySQL is generally regarded to be a very, very bad idea. Single master with multiple GTID replicas and promoting a replica to master upon failure is BCOP.

jafingi 11y ago

How do you guys re-route traffic for your load balancer to another in another data center? If you change your DNS record it would take x time before it has propagated. Say I have one server setup on Linode London and one duplicated on DO Amsterdam. How do I quickly re-route the traffic from my two main load balancers London to Amsterdam without much propagation time?

atmosx 11y ago
You cab use round-robin DNS ... Keep two DB in sync between different hosts/providers and effectively switch the DNS if host1 or host2 goes down. However this setup is easy for a kind of applications but may not be suited for other kind of apps.
scurvy 11y ago
Keep TTL's low (3-5 minutes). Things don't have to happen instantly. Clients understand. You had a bad day on the Internet. Guess what, stuff happens. Remember when "XYZ company down for 2 hours" made headlines? Yeah, that was a long time ago. Downtime is more or less accepted these days. Sure, some hothead customers will flip out and leave. You were probably not going to meet their expectations sometime and lose them eventually. Let them become someone else's nightmare.* * This is for an answer for the average "Hey I run a website or two" question. If you're asking and you are dealing with financial transactions or ad networks, well, you're asking in the wrong place and you should probably hire someone that knows how BGP anycasting works.
- lsc 11y ago
  >* This is for an answer for the average "Hey I run a website or two" question. If you're asking and you are dealing with financial transactions or ad networks, well, you're asking in the wrong place and you should probably hire someone that knows how BGP anycasting works. Eh, usually you just bgp anycast the DNS server. If you anycast just your DNS server, you are pretty much in the same pickle as if you host your dns with someone else who runs a reliable dns server (and have them do the anycast) - the pickle is that there's a minimum ttl. Now you can set up a redirector server and anycast that, and like 3xx redirect all your requests (or more often just the first request) and that's better, really, 'cause that redirect can be changed quickly and on a per-request (or more often per-session) basis... but while I know a thousand companies that will sell you anycast DNS service, I don't know anyone who will sell someone with a vps customer budget an anycast'd redirector service.