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I've never worked with MBAs before, in all my tech career, which included stints as a programmer and then a long period as a manager/director where I was in a m
by eitally 11y ago
I've never worked with MBAs before, in all my tech career, which included stints as a programmer and then a long period as a manager/director where I was in a much more business-oriented role. I always had a preconception that "MBA" essentially meant "management consultant", those high-priced guys who were paid to support bad news the CEO didn't want to seem came from himself. Restructuring advisement is certainly a valid role business consultants fulfill, but it's definitely not the only one, or even one of the more common ones.
I joined Google this summer and I have 2 ex-consultant MBAs in the team I'm managing, along with a third employee who is ex-BCG-but-no-MBA. They are awesome. They freaking rock at analysis, and are highly skilled at asking good & pointed questions to help nail down business opportunities & good/bad ideas. Two of them have technical BSes (EE & CS) and are fantastic PMs: well organized, analytical, strong communicators, outgoing, and perhaps most importantly, they know when they're weak in an area and how to recruit complimentary team members.
This by no means should be considered advice that everyone needs an MBA, that all MBAs are equal, that all tech PMs need an MBA, or even that all Google MBAs are good at their jobs, but MINE ARE, and they'd be much less proficient if they hadn't spent that extra two years in business school (along with tech internships both years). Just like everything else, people need to set goals and work appropriately to achieve them. For some individuals this will suggest an MBA; for many others, not so much.
Honestly, the biggest piece of business school advice I'd offer anyone is that if you can't get into or afford a top tier school, don't bother paying a school at all. Just try to DIY it the best you can. The gap between what students get out of the tier 1 programs and everything else (with a few notable exceptions) is immense.
I'm not counting exec MBA programs at all. They're specifically targeted at people who are already execs and just look to amp up certain skills (M&A, international development, etc).
- matwood 11y agoIT people with MBAs are super valuable. Every company HAS to have a tech strategy beyond what JS lib to use next year on the website. This merging of technology and business is hard and requires people who can live comfortably in both lands. Typically it means starting as a technologist and moving towards the business side, although I have seen it come from the other direction also.
- ryandrake 11y agoThis is a great comment, and I love seeing these kinds of testimonials counteract the dog pile of MBA bashing you usually see in this forum when the degree gets mentioned. Also, the advice about only bothering to consider tier 1 schools (basically top-10 or top-15 depending on who you talk to) is accurate. I think the degree gets a bad rap and is severely under-appreciated here in the Valley, but it's hard to change people's minds and correct biases.
- serge2k 11y agoWhy would you jump to the conclusion that their skills have anything at all to do with their MBAs?
- eitally 11y agoBecause I'm managing them and I talk to them and watch them work every day.
- the_watcher 11y agoIn my experience, ex-consultants are nearly always extraordinarily capable. The anti-consultant bias comes from what consultants are often asked to do, not from their competency.