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What happens to a face after it's in a database, or multiple databases, gets arrested, spends time in jail, and then goes straight? Will it be as impossible to

by a3n 11y ago

What happens to a face after it's in a database, or multiple databases, gets arrested, spends time in jail, and then goes straight? Will it be as impossible to get off these databases as it is to get off the no fly list?

bsenftner 11y ago
And that has nothing to do with FR and its technology. The contents of an FR database and getting items removed is purely human politics.
- a3n 11y ago
  This technology, deployed, is without a doubt a political issue. Divorcing what we work on from how it's used is irresponsible. And I'm not saying don't develop technology, but we have to recognize and consider how it fits into society. We have to discuss. The Stasi recruiting human spies from among the general population was both a logistical question and a political issue. The NSA weakening encryption, or parking on backbones or datacenters, is a technology and a political issue. The political urge to inflict both kinds of spying is just that, a political one. As technology improves, it makes the job of spies and other criminals that much easier, increasing the spy's reach, and changing the character of society. The technology is fascinating, but it's not divorced from society. We're all swimming in the same soup.
rmc 11y ago
This is why the EU courts have a "right to be forgotten"
DanBC 11y ago
Possibly like the DNA database - really hard to get off. IIt's worse than just convicted criminals being stuck on the database though. A bunch of people are arrested, and have their photo and DNA taken and added to databases, but they're never tried and thus never convicted, but their details stay on the system unless they apply to have them removed. Here is a case from 2008 where two people went to court to get their details taken off: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7764069.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7764069.stm And here's an earlier quote from a stupid judge suggesting everyone should be on the database: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6979138.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6979138.stm

by a3n 11y ago

bsenftner 11y ago

And that has nothing to do with FR and its technology. The contents of an FR database and getting items removed is purely human politics.

a3n 11y ago
This technology, deployed, is without a doubt a political issue. Divorcing what we work on from how it's used is irresponsible. And I'm not saying don't develop technology, but we have to recognize and consider how it fits into society. We have to discuss. The Stasi recruiting human spies from among the general population was both a logistical question and a political issue. The NSA weakening encryption, or parking on backbones or datacenters, is a technology and a political issue. The political urge to inflict both kinds of spying is just that, a political one. As technology improves, it makes the job of spies and other criminals that much easier, increasing the spy's reach, and changing the character of society. The technology is fascinating, but it's not divorced from society. We're all swimming in the same soup.

rmc 11y ago

This is why the EU courts have a "right to be forgotten"

DanBC 11y ago

Possibly like the DNA database - really hard to get off. IIt's worse than just convicted criminals being stuck on the database though. A bunch of people are arrested, and have their photo and DNA taken and added to databases, but they're never tried and thus never convicted, but their details stay on the system unless they apply to have them removed. Here is a case from 2008 where two people went to court to get their details taken off: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7764069.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7764069.stm And here's an earlier quote from a stupid judge suggesting everyone should be on the database: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6979138.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6979138.stm