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Flurry Notices Cupertino-based Users Testing Apps on Apple Tablet

20 points by cwilson 17y ago

cwilson 17y ago
What I'm wondering is, what is it that's telling them these analytics are from a new device?
- olefoo 17y ago
  Probably querying UIDevice. http://developer.apple.com/iphone/library/documentation/UIKit/Reference/UIDevice_Class/Reference/UIDevice.html http://developer.apple.com/iphone/library/documentation/UIKi...
- gcheong 17y ago
  They can determine the capabilities of the device running software with their analytics (e.g. OS version, camera resolution, display resolution, etc.).
  - ryanwaggoner 17y ago
    Then we're missing a lot of details...
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- blasdel 17y ago
  Flurry provides a phone-home library that gets linked into your application. Apple seems to have been careful to avoid press over a new User-Agent showing up in logs, but I guess they didn't bother spoofing syscalls or using an app firewall.
  - Timothee 17y ago
    And that's what surprises me a bit. Apple is known for being super-secretive but they don't think of filtering the network connections of their new device? Sounds like a big oversight. I'm not saying that this story is not true, and actually, maybe Apple is doing that knowing full well that there are good chances someone will notice it, creating more discussions around their upcoming announcement…
    - JunkDNA 17y ago
      I doubt it was an oversight. I suspect Apple starts to relax their procedures as they near an announcement. This allows a controlled flow of "leaks" to emerge and build buzz.
    - deleted 17y ago
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  - tptacek 17y ago
    Is the idea here that Apple has just now started testing the new product with actual iPhone apps? If the idea of the new product is that it runs iPhone apps, it would have been doing so in the shop for many, many months now.
    - blasdel 17y ago
      The idea is that they've just started testing it with these iPhone apps on an unperturbed connection to the public internet.
    - DenisM 17y ago
      Might have been their own test suites in the first stages. Besides we don't know if they are going to actually ship the product or only announce it.
    - joezydeco 17y ago
      If Apple expects the Wednesday announcement/press event at the off-site auditorium to go well they probably need to make sure the device works outside the Apple campus network, don't they?
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MaysonL 17y ago
Orignal source: http://blog.flurry.com/ http://blog.flurry.com/
ryanwaggoner 17y ago
There's something weird about this report. The only actual detail that they shared regarding it being different from an iPhone was that it's running OS 3.2. How do they know it's not the next-generation iPhone? Or even just the current 3G S being tested with the next version of the OS? And if they have other info, like screen resolution, memory, CPU, camera resolution, etc, why aren't they sharing it?
- cmelbye 17y ago
  Flurry also noticed that the Apple device was running on OS 3.2 I believe they noticed that it was a different type of device running a newer version of the OS. It could definitely be a next-gen iPhone, but I doubt it's a 3GS with the newer OS version.
- mrshoe 17y ago
  From Peter Farago, Flurry's VP of Marketing, in the blog comments: This is a fair question. We feel confident that we are looking at the tablet device for two main reasons, that I can share with you. Also note that, as a company, we have experience tracking new Apple hardware devices in the past. 1) If this were an iPhone we were looking at, the hardware would tell us when we ask it (via the software). So we can rule out that this is an iPhone. Also, we already see verified iPhone devices testing OS 4.0 and these leave (Apple's Cupertino, CA) campus, whereas this device does not. This makes sense given the secrecy around the new tablet device as the launch event nears. 2) The apps being tested match up to what the devices is supposed to feature (e.g., news, books, etc.). We cannot share further detail here due to Terms of Service agreements we have with customers that use our service, but feel that if you were able to see the data we see, at the level of granularity, it would be clear to you as well. Of course the truth will be revealed on Wednesday, but we wouldn't publish such a report without a high level of confidence. Flurry is not interested in building a business on rumor, but rather authority, credibility and accuracy. Point (2) seems less than rock solid, but (1) lends a bit of credence, especially since they've already seen iPhone OS 4.0 devices. It could just be that they're doing less testing of apps on 3.2 iPhones, however.
  - greendestiny 17y ago
csmeder 17y ago
So does this mean the Apple Tablet is basically an iPhone the size of a kindle? . Doesn't this mean it's capabilities will be about the same as an iPhone? Or is it that a slightly bigger screen does make a huge difference?
- cmelbye 17y ago
  I think the idea is that "iPhone OS 3.2" will provide interface changes that will make it more usable on a larger screen. As the article says, no one would want a 15x15 grid of icons.
Groxx 17y ago
This makes me want to change my browser's user agent string to something that includes "Apple Tablet". Just to screw with companies / bloggers like this.
timvanloan 17y ago
Fascinating- it'll be interesting to see if this story pans out to be true- and how Apple will use/avoid Flurry for future product launches.

20 points by cwilson 17y ago

cwilson 17y ago

What I'm wondering is, what is it that's telling them these analytics are from a new device?

olefoo 17y ago
Probably querying UIDevice. http://developer.apple.com/iphone/library/documentation/UIKit/Reference/UIDevice_Class/Reference/UIDevice.html http://developer.apple.com/iphone/library/documentation/UIKi...
gcheong 17y ago
They can determine the capabilities of the device running software with their analytics (e.g. OS version, camera resolution, display resolution, etc.).
- ryanwaggoner 17y ago
  Then we're missing a lot of details...
deleted 17y ago
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blasdel 17y ago
Flurry provides a phone-home library that gets linked into your application. Apple seems to have been careful to avoid press over a new User-Agent showing up in logs, but I guess they didn't bother spoofing syscalls or using an app firewall.
- Timothee 17y ago
  And that's what surprises me a bit. Apple is known for being super-secretive but they don't think of filtering the network connections of their new device? Sounds like a big oversight. I'm not saying that this story is not true, and actually, maybe Apple is doing that knowing full well that there are good chances someone will notice it, creating more discussions around their upcoming announcement…
  - JunkDNA 17y ago
    I doubt it was an oversight. I suspect Apple starts to relax their procedures as they near an announcement. This allows a controlled flow of "leaks" to emerge and build buzz.
  - deleted 17y ago
    [deleted]
- tptacek 17y ago
  Is the idea here that Apple has just now started testing the new product with actual iPhone apps? If the idea of the new product is that it runs iPhone apps, it would have been doing so in the shop for many, many months now.
  - blasdel 17y ago
    The idea is that they've just started testing it with these iPhone apps on an unperturbed connection to the public internet.
  - DenisM 17y ago
    Might have been their own test suites in the first stages. Besides we don't know if they are going to actually ship the product or only announce it.
  - joezydeco 17y ago
    If Apple expects the Wednesday announcement/press event at the off-site auditorium to go well they probably need to make sure the device works outside the Apple campus network, don't they?

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MaysonL 17y ago

Orignal source: http://blog.flurry.com/ http://blog.flurry.com/

ryanwaggoner 17y ago

There's something weird about this report. The only actual detail that they shared regarding it being different from an iPhone was that it's running OS 3.2. How do they know it's not the next-generation iPhone? Or even just the current 3G S being tested with the next version of the OS? And if they have other info, like screen resolution, memory, CPU, camera resolution, etc, why aren't they sharing it?

cmelbye 17y ago
Flurry also noticed that the Apple device was running on OS 3.2 I believe they noticed that it was a different type of device running a newer version of the OS. It could definitely be a next-gen iPhone, but I doubt it's a 3GS with the newer OS version.
mrshoe 17y ago
From Peter Farago, Flurry's VP of Marketing, in the blog comments: This is a fair question. We feel confident that we are looking at the tablet device for two main reasons, that I can share with you. Also note that, as a company, we have experience tracking new Apple hardware devices in the past. 1) If this were an iPhone we were looking at, the hardware would tell us when we ask it (via the software). So we can rule out that this is an iPhone. Also, we already see verified iPhone devices testing OS 4.0 and these leave (Apple's Cupertino, CA) campus, whereas this device does not. This makes sense given the secrecy around the new tablet device as the launch event nears. 2) The apps being tested match up to what the devices is supposed to feature (e.g., news, books, etc.). We cannot share further detail here due to Terms of Service agreements we have with customers that use our service, but feel that if you were able to see the data we see, at the level of granularity, it would be clear to you as well. Of course the truth will be revealed on Wednesday, but we wouldn't publish such a report without a high level of confidence. Flurry is not interested in building a business on rumor, but rather authority, credibility and accuracy. Point (2) seems less than rock solid, but (1) lends a bit of credence, especially since they've already seen iPhone OS 4.0 devices. It could just be that they're doing less testing of apps on 3.2 iPhones, however.
- greendestiny 17y ago

csmeder 17y ago

So does this mean the Apple Tablet is basically an iPhone the size of a kindle? . Doesn't this mean it's capabilities will be about the same as an iPhone? Or is it that a slightly bigger screen does make a huge difference?

cmelbye 17y ago
I think the idea is that "iPhone OS 3.2" will provide interface changes that will make it more usable on a larger screen. As the article says, no one would want a 15x15 grid of icons.

Groxx 17y ago

This makes me want to change my browser's user agent string to something that includes "Apple Tablet". Just to screw with companies / bloggers like this.

timvanloan 17y ago

Fascinating- it'll be interesting to see if this story pans out to be true- and how Apple will use/avoid Flurry for future product launches.