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Last time I checked AMD was losing something like $200MM a quarter with around $750MM cash on hand. So they could be out of money in a year. NVIDIA isn't exact
by taspeotis 11y ago
Last time I checked AMD was losing something like $200MM a quarter with around $750MM cash on hand. So they could be out of money in a year.
NVIDIA isn't exactly losing this race ... why not just lock yourself in to GameWorks?
- sspiff 11y agoWell, there's the case for other platforms than PC. Also, maybe if you are a major studio who will with certainty release your game within 18 months, perhaps you should. But if you invest heavily and lock yourself to a specific SDK of a single vendor, you better hope the SDK survives and remains relevant.
- akerro 11y agoSo it is time to buy new CPU and GPU?
- creshal 11y agoAMD's finances have been miserable for ten years, and they always managed to find new investors.
- tormeh 11y agoIt's kinda weird, actually. I mean, AMD often has really interesting ideas that may be easy to sell, but execution is always bad and the brand is damaged.
- tankenmate 11y agoAMD's execution being bad has been provably Intel's fault at times; Intel has been proven to use anti-competetive contracts in the past with their customers (HP, Dell, etc), i.e. limit good CPU prices/discounts unless customers limit their use of AMD.
- creshal 11y agoThat was ten years ago. Ever since, AMD had a free playing field… not that it helped.
- valarauca1 11y agoAMD is playing a fair field, but they aren't innovating. Their top of the line processors haven't received changes in 2 years.
- ant6n 11y agoWell they are trying to innovate: hbm, apus, vr. The 22nm process node they wanted to use was cancelled, and now they're basically working to push it their 14nm products instead. Kind of such (edit:sux) for them to be fabless.
- valarauca1 11y agoThey'll have it. Zen will be 14nm process. I'm excited for Zen, AMD does good things when the wipe the board clean and start over.
- PeCaN 11y agoAlso they brought on the guy responsible for some of the earlier iPhone processors, which had great single-threaded performance (AMD's weakest point right now).
- greggyb 11y agoJim Keller, their previous lead architect, has left again. The Zen design would have been complete or nearly so by the time he left, but it looks like they're already slipping on their original time frame. I'm looking forward to what they do, but it's not without some bumps in the road yet.
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- tankenmate 11y agoIt's in Intel's best interest that they can find investors; whether they have influenced this is an open question.
- akerro 11y agohttp://hackaday.com/2015/12/09/echo-of-the-bunnymen-how-amd-won-then-lost/ http://hackaday.com/2015/12/09/echo-of-the-bunnymen-how-amd-... for reference
- driverdan 11y agoDo you think your CPU and GPU will stop working if they go out of business?
- creshal 11y agoWell, the GPU at least would quickly become useless without driver updates. Every time a new AAA title is released, Nvidia and AMD scramble to work around game bugs inside their drivers because the developers don't care.
- tarpherder 11y agoThey care, but drivers contain bugs too. Your attitude seems overly negative without much argumentation. Are you sure your negativity is warranted?
- ghrifter 11y ago>> drivers because the developers don't care Yeah because developers have unlimited access to all sorts of GPU/CPU combos that the customers have...
- akerro 11y agoI meant, I need to buy new AMD CPU and GPU.
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- creshal 11y agoAssuming AMD runs out of money tomorrow, we'd still have an installed base of 50 or 60 million XBox Ones, PlayStation 4s and Wii Us that make use of AMD GPUs, together with a 25% market share on computers. > why not just lock yourself in to GameWorks? Because only Nvidia users benefit of it, which manages barely 55% of the PC market share – everything else is dominated by AMD or Intel (or, in the case of handhelds, various other companies).
- tankenmate 11y agoAnd in the long run if Nvidia dominates the market even Nvidia users won't benefit (or won't benefit as much as they could have).
- VT_Drew 11y ago>NVIDIA isn't exactly losing this race Because AMD has been putting out great cards the past few months, completely revamped their their driver software. Meanwhile NVIDIA has been doing not much of anything. The latest reports have shown AMD regaining market share in discrete CPU's and this trend will most likely continue. AMD has ZEN coming out next year, and they will probably be profitable again by the end of 2016. AMD isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
- andromeduck 11y agoreskin not revamp