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Take matters into your own hands and change your diet. Nothing beats a high anti-inflammatory whole-foods plant-based diet. Check the research.

boothead 11y ago
Indeed, that's what I've done. I've completely eliminated sugar and I've increased my veg intake. As of the end of last week urine strips indicate that I'm in ketosis. I'll have another set of bloods done this week before I go to see a specialist probably after xmas. I intend to take a very self experimental approach with this. At the same time, if it does turn out that I'm one of those people who doesn't metabolize saturated fat well, or I do in fact have a genetic mutation then I'll also have to consider the drug route I suppose.
- atomical 11y ago
  "A plant-based diet is a diet of any animal (including humans) based on foods derived from plants, including vegetables, whole grains, legumes and fruits, but with few or no animal products." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant-based_diet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant-based_diet
- tertius 11y ago
  How can I get in contact with you? I'm in the same boat.
  - tome 11y ago
    https://twitter.com/boothead https://twitter.com/boothead
copperx 11y ago
Doesn't the TFA address this and basically says that there's no anti-inflammatory diet except a strict liquid one delivered through the nose?
JupiterMoon 11y ago
Isn't it rather dangerous to give sweeping medical advice to strangers over the internet?
- dualogy 11y ago
  Well, they're strangers..
- twistedanimator 11y ago
  I love the thought that "eat more vegetables" constitutes dangerous advice.
  - JupiterMoon 11y ago
    The instructions were more along the lines of "eat nothing but vegetables and ignore your doctor".
    - noondip 11y ago
      Most doctors get exactly zero nutrition education and the few which do are very limited and usually heavily influenced by Big-Ag and Big-Pharma. Certainly "only eating vegetables" is not sound advice, but it's not unreasonable to second-guess your doctor's diet recommendations.
      - JupiterMoon 11y ago
        The GP said: > Nothing beats a high anti-inflammatory whole-foods plant-based diet. The word "Nothing" implies that this comment goes beyond diet advice in the realms of alternative medicine. This kind of advice is really dangerous.
metamet 11y ago
> whole-foods plant-based There should be a lot of veggies, of course, but people seem to think that meat is evil and bad for you. There's a lot of very good reasons to eat lean meats, fish and grass-fed ruminants.
- blacksmith_tb 11y ago
  Well, there are plenty of recent studies that suggest that high-protein diets, and ones with a lot of meat in particular, are associated with increases in the rates of several cancers. But to just to play devil's advocate, why eat meat when you don't need to? I've seen some studies suggesting eating fish has health benefits (though there's the problem of pollution in the oceans), but I can't say I have seen anything that would actually recommend red meat, no matter how wholesome the source.
  - metamet 11y ago
    The only issue with red meat would be the carcinogens that come from burning or charring. Saturated fat isn't the evil the FDA once thought it was. There are also a ton of studies that suggest that one of the leading indicators for wellness and longevity is total lean mass, and protein is a fundamental building block for this. There simply isn't a way to eat a whole foods diet and put on muscle mass--you have to supplement with a bunch of pea protein and the like. And vegan/vegetarian diets are notoriously high in carbohydrates and low in fat and protein. Not necessarily a great recipe for wellness. Add to that the androgenic affects that meat (and dairy) produce, and there isn't much that compares. And part of the reason why meat carries some association with cancer is its growth producing effects. Of course, overeating and being sedentary is one of the worst things you can, regardless of if it's meat or not.
    - noondip 11y ago
      > And vegan/vegetarian diets are notoriously high in carbohydrates and low in fat and protein. Not necessarily a great recipe for wellness. Please cite a reputable source for this outlandish claim. You can check my post history for some links to non-profit health organizations such as WHO, which recommend the majority of caloric intake to come from carbohydrates, and to limit fat/protein intake to 15% or less each.

boothead 11y ago

Indeed, that's what I've done. I've completely eliminated sugar and I've increased my veg intake. As of the end of last week urine strips indicate that I'm in ketosis. I'll have another set of bloods done this week before I go to see a specialist probably after xmas. I intend to take a very self experimental approach with this. At the same time, if it does turn out that I'm one of those people who doesn't metabolize saturated fat well, or I do in fact have a genetic mutation then I'll also have to consider the drug route I suppose.

atomical 11y ago
"A plant-based diet is a diet of any animal (including humans) based on foods derived from plants, including vegetables, whole grains, legumes and fruits, but with few or no animal products." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant-based_diet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant-based_diet
tertius 11y ago
How can I get in contact with you? I'm in the same boat.
- tome 11y ago
  https://twitter.com/boothead https://twitter.com/boothead

copperx 11y ago

Doesn't the TFA address this and basically says that there's no anti-inflammatory diet except a strict liquid one delivered through the nose?

JupiterMoon 11y ago

Isn't it rather dangerous to give sweeping medical advice to strangers over the internet?

dualogy 11y ago
Well, they're strangers..
twistedanimator 11y ago
I love the thought that "eat more vegetables" constitutes dangerous advice.
- JupiterMoon 11y ago
  The instructions were more along the lines of "eat nothing but vegetables and ignore your doctor".
  - noondip 11y ago
    Most doctors get exactly zero nutrition education and the few which do are very limited and usually heavily influenced by Big-Ag and Big-Pharma. Certainly "only eating vegetables" is not sound advice, but it's not unreasonable to second-guess your doctor's diet recommendations.
    - JupiterMoon 11y ago
      The GP said: > Nothing beats a high anti-inflammatory whole-foods plant-based diet. The word "Nothing" implies that this comment goes beyond diet advice in the realms of alternative medicine. This kind of advice is really dangerous.

metamet 11y ago

> whole-foods plant-based There should be a lot of veggies, of course, but people seem to think that meat is evil and bad for you. There's a lot of very good reasons to eat lean meats, fish and grass-fed ruminants.

blacksmith_tb 11y ago
Well, there are plenty of recent studies that suggest that high-protein diets, and ones with a lot of meat in particular, are associated with increases in the rates of several cancers. But to just to play devil's advocate, why eat meat when you don't need to? I've seen some studies suggesting eating fish has health benefits (though there's the problem of pollution in the oceans), but I can't say I have seen anything that would actually recommend red meat, no matter how wholesome the source.
- metamet 11y ago
  The only issue with red meat would be the carcinogens that come from burning or charring. Saturated fat isn't the evil the FDA once thought it was. There are also a ton of studies that suggest that one of the leading indicators for wellness and longevity is total lean mass, and protein is a fundamental building block for this. There simply isn't a way to eat a whole foods diet and put on muscle mass--you have to supplement with a bunch of pea protein and the like. And vegan/vegetarian diets are notoriously high in carbohydrates and low in fat and protein. Not necessarily a great recipe for wellness. Add to that the androgenic affects that meat (and dairy) produce, and there isn't much that compares. And part of the reason why meat carries some association with cancer is its growth producing effects. Of course, overeating and being sedentary is one of the worst things you can, regardless of if it's meat or not.
  - noondip 11y ago
    > And vegan/vegetarian diets are notoriously high in carbohydrates and low in fat and protein. Not necessarily a great recipe for wellness. Please cite a reputable source for this outlandish claim. You can check my post history for some links to non-profit health organizations such as WHO, which recommend the majority of caloric intake to come from carbohydrates, and to limit fat/protein intake to 15% or less each.