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Ipv6 traffic just shy of 10% of total
- zeristor 11y agoI've been following this for months, and by my projection it should have cleared 10% this past weekend, but it didn't... Recent weekly increases have been very impressive.
- tshtf 11y agoMaybe these trends will actually drive AWS to support externally addressable IPv6 for EC2 instances.
- tazjin 11y agoSame goes for Google's own Compute Engine, which doesn't support IPv6 at all. Curiously Google's managed MySQL instances receive IPv6 addresses by default, but I believe that's the only component of their service that does.
- mgbmtl 11y agoThe per-country stats are interesting. US passed the 20% mark some time ago. Seems like some Canadian ISPs have started deploying IPv6 (other than beta), since it's now at 6% (it was around 1% for a long time). UK, Spain and Sweden are surprisingly low. On the corporate side, it's annoying that Github, Twitter and OSUOSL (which hosts a lot of Free Software projects) still don't have IPv6 enabled (although I was told 2016-Q1 for OSUOSL).
- paulddraper 11y agoWhy is that annoying?
- mgbmtl 11y agoOrganizations/companies with more resources should lead the way (ex: Google/Youtube, Netflix, Facebook).
- Sami_Lehtinen 11y agoHacker News ... no IPv6.
- ejdyksen 11y agoHN is hosted behind CloudFlare, too, so this should be as simple as flipping a switch...
- buro9 11y agoI've no direct knowledge at all into this, but... for my own forums I found that most of the comment spam tools I was using presumed IPv4. This was especially true of "spam from same network" type logic that these tools were using. For example only: Stop Forum Spam only recently began testing their work for IPv6: https://www.stopforumspam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=44371 https://www.stopforumspam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=44371 I re-wrote my comment spam solution (not specifically for the comment spam problem, was doing some other stuff) and have long since enabled IPv6, but it's worth bearing in mind that network is one thing, sometimes what holds someone back from flipping the switch are the tools we use.
- ejdyksen 11y agoCloudFlare does have a pretty compelling compatibility layer just for that purpose: https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/202494830-Pseudo-IPv4-Supporting-IPv6-addresses-in-legacy-IPv4-applications https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/202494830-P...
- buro9 11y agoThanks for letting me know :)
- samuellb 11y agoDoing blacklisting of IPv6 addresses is actually quite hard, because you can't know how network owners lay out their addresses. Some networks (especially VPS providers) will use one /64 (or so) per datacenter, while other will give out a /64 for individual users. So when 2001:db8:a1:b2::c:3 has sent spam to you, you can't know if you should block the network 2001:db8:a1:b2::/64 or the specific address 2001:db8:a1:b2::c:3. Some blacklists (carelessly) take the former approach and block entire datacenters.
- MLR 11y agoI can't speak for Spain and Sweden, but in the UK there are only two companies who provide internet infrastructure (though one is required to lease their network out to the market for competition reasons), as far as I'm aware they simply haven't deployed IPv6 for consumer lines yet.
- gsnedders 11y agoThis isn't actually the case: yes, OpenReach (part of the BT Group) owns all of the infrastructure from telephone exchange to the property as well as the initial infrastructure in the exchange, but that all supports IPv6, and OpenReach's customers (who are ISPs, not end users) are able to deploy IPv6 if they desire. It's the ISPs individual equipment (sometimes in the exchanges, but more often the routers they provide to customers) that doesn't support IPv6 and is blocking deployment: this is why some ISPs (A&A, for example) have IPv6 live.
- reycharles 11y agoI heard a Dane say the Nordic ISPs had enough 'foresight' to hoard enough IPv4 addresses for the foreseeable future.
- djsumdog 11y agoI worked for a New Zealand company that was getting into hosting and we couldn't buy IPv4 addresses at all. We were complete out. I think one of the team leads started looking at buying blocks from African companies.
- samuellb 11y agoYes the major Swedish ISPs also say the same thing, except for the "foresight" part. One of our ISPs is even giving out "unlimited" public IPv4 addresses on their consumer subscriptions (previously they had a limit on 5 addresses, but now they have apparently removed the limit). The ISPs even refuse to offer IPv6 when it comes to "big" customers, like apartment cooperatives with hundreds of apartments... You have to turn to the small/local ISPs for (consumer) IPv6 here.
- aplorbust 11y agoAny way for someone outside of Scandinavia to purchase/rent some of these public IPv4 addresses? VPS? Datacenter?
- samuellb 11y agoNo, it's for consumer subscriptions only, and commercial use is prohibited. On the same ISP, commercial users have to pay depending on IP address block size and justify how they will use the addresses etc.
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- colanderman 11y agoTwitter? Try Amazon. EC2 is IPv4-only.
- djsumdog 11y agoSo are S3 buckets. That's one reason I stuck with my Linode instead of deploying my static websites via S3.
- zanny 11y agoMeanwhile my ISP still doesn't support it. And I'm paying $60 a month for 10/2. 'Murica. (and thats not even bad, 3 years ago I was getting 3/1 for $40)
- jlappi 11y agoIt was recently that I could even talk my ISP into giving me a static ipv4, so I'm not going to try and push my luck on ipv6 just yet.
- gjem97 11y agoThis is almost entirely attributable to v6-only mobile networks, right (at least in the US)? Anybody know what the stats look like if you exclude those, and only look at fixed connections?
- karlshea 11y agoI don't think so, Comcast residential is dual-stack nowadays so that would be significant traffic.
- simoncion 11y ago...assuming that the router on the premises supports IPv6-PD, that RAs to the LAN has been turned on, and that the machines on that LAN haven't had their IPv6 support switched off... of course. :)
- mitchty 11y agoI've been running dual ipv6 on comcast for about 2 years now. Now that I've got el capitan installed my traffic is > 50% ipv6
- simoncion 11y agoI've been doing the same for many years (and used a Hurricane Electric 6to4 tunnel before that). Haven't bothered to look at my traffic mix, but I expect it's similar to yours. Thing is, there are still routers out there that don't support v6 out of the box, and -just as there are network admins who DROP traffic because doing so "keeps them hidden from hackers"- some people keep v6 support disabled because of cargo-cult security concerns. (Others keep v6 off because some or all of their systems are misconfigured and cannot be fixed, or their ISP is incompetent and hasn't configured their network correctly. These are reasonable reasons to keep v6 off. ;) )
- dorfsmay 11y agoI used to run IPv6 through an HE tunnel at home until YouTube became really really slow: Google had enable IPv6 on YouTube, so the traffic was now going through the tunnel. I had to get rid of my tunnel for everything but my servers that day!
- amyjess 11y agoI don't use IPv6 even though my ISP supports it, because every time I try to enable it, it causes all my network connections to randomly choke. This has happened with every Linux desktop I've ever used. If IPv6 is enabled, then half the time I try to visit a website, the connection doesn't go through. No error either; it just sits there forever and ever. It's particularly aggravating when AJAX is involved--you get to experience Google Maps stop working for about five minutes while you're using it. I've observed it across multiple Linux distributions for several years now. I've learned to always add "ipv6.disable=1" to my sysctl.conf if I want a working network.
- mschuster91 11y agoLooks like either your ISP or your router is at fault.
- davman 11y agoJust a thought, but try this; re-enable ipv6 and then add: 'options single-request' to the end of /etc/resolv.conf Let me know if you try it and it works.
- simoncion 11y agoThat's very, very, very strange. I've been running IPv6 (first through a tunnelbroker.net tunnel, and -much- later using native IPv6 through Comcast) for roughly eight years now. Haven't had any issue with Linux, Mac, or Windows systems. To diagnose a thing, what happens when you disable Router Advertisements on your router, then enable IPv6 on a machine, and run Teredo [0] on that machine? (After Teredo assigns an IPv6 address to the teredo virtual interface, start a 'ping6 google.com'. It will take a few minutes for the Teredo machinery to figure out how to make a connection, but it should eventually do so.) Are you -perhaps- rejecting or dropping ICMP on your router? If you are, don't. ICMP is required to make IPv6 work. [0] This is the Teredo implementation that people use on Linux systems http://www.remlab.net/miredo/ http://www.remlab.net/miredo/
- amyjess 11y agoI'll have to look into this sometime. Thanks for the advice!
- Siecje 11y agoWhy is the chart go up and down?
- tshtf 11y agoIf you zoom in you'll see higher IPv6 usage on weekends. This points to higher penetration on IPv6 on mobile and consumer (cable modem and DSL) networks, and lower penetration on work or corporate networks.
- Symbiote 11y agoThe ups are weekends, so I'd guess many more home connections have IPv6 compared to workplaces.
- Symbiote 11y agoAre there any benefits to a website supporting IPv6? I'm looking at the "per country" graph, which highlights latency issues, but it looks like they wouldn't really be noticeable to the user. However, is there much point when IPv4 works fine? (Perhaps 10% of our users are from the countries marked in pink/red on Google's map.)
- 542458 11y agoIt doesn't really work fine - you're just used to (or don't notice) all the ways that it doesn't work. We ran out of IPv4 addresses a while back, so we're doing all sorts of stupid stuff like selling addresses, dynamic IPs, and address translation to distribute and squeeze more life out of the ones we have. This makes a lot of networks much more complicated than they really should be, and will only become a bigger problem as more devices come online. Universal IPv4 would enable some cool stuff, like giving every device on the planet a unique IP (or even several to increase anonymity), as well as vastly simplifying many common networking problems. Here's one example: Have you ever tried to use a home internet connection to host a server, say for home automation, file sharing or gaming? It's a huge pain for anybody who isn't network-inclined. By giving everything a unique IP, routing setup for this sort of thing becomes much easier since every device has a unique, static IP address that it can always be found at. Also, IPv6 has some security and encryption features that are not found in IPv4, which should basically end packet spoofing as an attack. It's also a bit faster too, because packet integrity isn't as rigorously checked and routing is simpler.
- Symbiote 11y agoWe have enough IPv4 addresses (1024?) that every device and VM has a public IP. Even if we were short, would we necessarily want to enable IPv6 on the webserver? I'm interested to know if it makes any difference to users: - Does it make things noticeably faster (or slower) for any? - Does it totally break (or fix) access to the website for anyone? Faster for many but slower for a few would be OK, but faster for some but broken for a few wouldn't be acceptable.
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- opk 11y agoThis isn't 10% of traffic. Merely that 10% of connections to google were from IPv6 capable clients.
- filvdg 11y ago39,69 % for Belgium looks like to be the highest? One of the Biggest PSPs flipped the switch
- Yeri 11y agoBelgium has been top for a while. All ISPs support IPv6* here on home internet. Mobile not yet though. * Some need a newer modem -- which might take a while before everyone switches.