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Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015
- Hello71 11y agopreviously: https://hn.algolia.com/?query="unix.se"&dateRange=all https://hn.algolia.com/?query="unix.se"&dateRange=all notably: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10469824 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10469824
- fs111 11y agoNope, this is the follow-up of that first article.
- djsumdog 11y agoOnly one of then uses a tiling window manager today (although many of them look like they arrange things in tiles anyway)
- tormeh 11y agoI personally can't get used to tiling wm's, but I use Unity's aerosnap-like all the time. It's either full-screen (I have two screens and the more screens you have the more often you can go full screen) or aerosnap. I rarely have random size windows around. I don't have OCD by any measure, but random size windows on top of each other just annoys me.
- Tharkun 11y agoI use awesomewm, which is, well, awesome. Each of my workspaces has a preconfigured layout: floating for browser, auto tiling for terminals, etc.
- hackeraccount 11y agoAwesome is the bomb.
- pablovidal85 11y agoI use spectacle for simple arrangements (most of the time full screen or half screen) and tmux with preconfigured workspaces for all the rest.
- myle 11y agoI used to use tiling managers, but then I found a terminal emulator (Terminator) with the feature of splitting screen and I just run this in maximized mode and everything else in floating mode.
- fs111 11y agoI submitted that 3 day ago and it was not met with interest. hn is a strange place some times.
- riebschlager 11y agoI'm sorry for your loss.
- pkofod 11y agoDon't worry they're only internet points :)
- rnhmjoj 11y agoPosts created in the weekend usually have a better probability of getting popular: http://www.dkriesel.com/en/blog/2015/1025_a_data-driven_guide_to_creating_successful_hacker_news_posts#popularity_by_day_of_week_and_daytime http://www.dkriesel.com/en/blog/2015/1025_a_data-driven_guid...
- hengheng 11y agoI don't do a whole lot of software (got caught up on the hardware side of things), but one thing I'm noticing is that nobody makes extensive use of "advanced" IDE features as in eclipse or visual Studio. Is this personal taste, or has it to do with the scope of the projects these guys are working on?
- detaro 11y agoThe selection of people certainly makes it less likely that they use IDEs that look like Eclipse or VS. But the editor windows you are seeing may look plain, but I bet most of them have quite fancy features set up, that do a lot of "IDE"-stuff.
- shoover 11y agoYeah, it would be interesting to see how Bram gets around the vim source code, for example.
- BrandonBradley 11y agoI wouldn't jump to that conclusion unless I observed how people use it in real-time. For verbose languages, you can't beat auto-completion and auto-import.
- creshal 11y ago> For verbose languages, you can't beat auto-completion and auto-import. And you can get both in vim, emacs, etc. The lines between those and full IDEs are blurry with the right (or wrong) amount of plugins.
- izacus 11y agoThe autocompletion in both vim and emacs was always significantly worse than any IDE-based ones, no matter the plugin I tried (for C, C++, Python or Go). Most of them are pretty much limited to ctags with no context matching, others simply died on projects beyond trivial.
- hengheng 11y agoI don't do a whole lot of software (got caught up on the hardware side of things), but one thing I'm noticing is that nobody makes extensive use of "advanced" IDE features as in eclipse or visual Studio. Is this personal taste, or has it to do with the scope of the projects these guys are working on?
- plg 11y agoWarren Toomey: "my mail is stored locally, not on someone else's server" What does this mean exactly? Is his machine a mail server? I used to know an engineer/scientists who only used a single laptop (linux) and it acted as his mail server. When he travelled he used dyndns (or some such thing) so that delayed mail would be delivered to his laptop. Could never get a straight answer about whether this worked all the time or not (whether he ended up missing emails).
- maaaats 11y agoSome mail protocols (and clients if you want to) delete the mail on the server when downloaded to the client.
- keithpeter 11y agoPerhaps it was more 'my mail is stored locally once I download it'? I use Thunderbird with pop3 settings that ask remote mail server to delete messages once downloaded. Then authenticated SMTP account to send. No big reason, just what I do. Edit: I believe that my shell-account provider is deleting those messages once downloaded, and not copying them somewhere else, but I have no guarantee of that as pointed out lower in the tree from the parent post. If the gentleman is using a mail server on his PC that would be interesting as you say.
- SyneRyder 11y agoMaybe he's using POP3 instead of IMAP? (ie downloading all the email to a local archive) Thunderbird and other clients still support that, and you can still search & tag messages within your local email archives. It also means if your email server is hacked, they won't get your entire email history - unless your local machine gets hacked, of course.
- danvk 11y ago4/6 developers describe their desktops as "boring".
- Thiz 11y agoI believe my only change has been from Notepad2 to Sublime and from Firefox to Safari.
- shoover 11y agoFor Stallman's case, surely there is an emacs command to copy the the whole frame, mode line and all, to text for pasting into a mail buffer. But seriously, it does make me wonder how much of the vast system he retains and uses. Using it for a decade, myself, (certainly not working ON it or understanding the internals) I learn new parts every month but forget a lot, too.
- yourapostasy 11y agoThere is [1]. I'd like to find a package that saves the layout in a form that regenerates the screenshot in a terminal when you cat the text file it outputs. [1] http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ScreenShot http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ScreenShot
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- kozukumi 11y agoPretty much what you expect from such people. Not very customised and quite boring. A long time ago I used to "rice" my dev machine. I customised everything but these days I work with mostly the defaults with a few changes such as font and colour scheme. A terminal, code editor and doc browser (usually a terminal or browser) is all I really need. Oh and a decent music player (Winamp for me, it still kicks the llamas ass).
- caseysoftware 11y agoI'd wager it's super customized behind the scenes, just not in ways that we'd see from a screenshot. Watch any of them work for five minutes and it'd be obvious.
- kozukumi 11y agoI am not so sure. I have met a few famous developers and I used to be surprised just how "boring" their setups were. Rob Pike was the only person who seemed to really configure his environment. A lot of old school devs just continue to use the command line in whatever form it is available. Even to the point that some just used cmd rather than bother with things like Cygwin. I was surprised to see Bjarne using a standard Windows XP machine. Not sure if he used Visual Studio or what but he didn't do anything special as far as I could tell. Then of course you have RMS who still lives in the 1970s :) Edit: Like I said in my previous post I quite like using whatever the default is. A few changes here and there but on the whole it is much easier to move around if you just learn to work with whatever it comes with.
- myg204 11y agoSo Kernighan uses the sam editor, classic.
- bl4ckdu5t 11y agoStallman ........ yes! I'm searching for the screenshot tool
- necessity 11y agoFinally someone using a tiling window manager! I don't know how the stacking folk survive, look at the insane amount of windows just floating around.
- hcarvalhoalves 11y agoTilling makes more sense now the screens are bigger and high-res.
- anotherevan 11y agoI like the concept of tiling managers, but find the implementation lacking. Touting being entirely keyboard driven and configured by learning what to edit in some text configuration file seems like an anti-feature to me in a GUI management system. I want to be able to drag the windows around to rearrange things with my mouse, not have to remember or look up keyboard shortcuts. The model of dragging things around with a mouse is intuitive and simple. Sure, have the keyboard shortcuts as well, but give us both! If I wanted to have to look up the documentation every time I need to perform the simplest operation with my software tools, I’d use git. I would love to see some sort of tiling layout manager you could run on top of KDE. (Heresy, I know.)
- necessity 11y ago>I want to be able to drag the windows around to rearrange things with my mouse The whole point of a tilling window manager is letting the WM do that for you automatically. I use xmonad, you can use the mouse to select windows and even drag them around (though the combination of floating and tilled windows is ugly and unproductive). You have to configure everything from a text file with comments, but how is that any different from a GUI with labels and input boxes? It shouldn't take you more than a few days to get used to the shortcuts or define your own. Doing everything from the keyboard greatly improves productivity if you also use vim/emacs or other keyboard-driven text editor for work + the shell.
- myle 11y agoMultiple screens and monitors make it bearable.
- _lce0 11y agoI am liking to open the images go full-screen .. to feel seeing at their machines you can see how all they --or we?-- moved from 4:3 to 16:9
- soared 11y ago> Richard Stallman (2002) I don’t know how to make a screenshot, because I normally use my computer in text-mode. I have X and GNOME installed, but I use them only occasionally. Does anyone else find this quote completely absurd? What a ridiculous disconnect from modern computing, even in 2002, to use text-mode.
- kbutler 11y agoText-mode can help focus on the task at hand without distraction. It also facilitates speedy, transparent work on remote servers. I tend to use a single maximized app in a GUI environment, often running emacs, though I do like to split the screen in half to allow two full-page, focused views (e.g., code editor and browser). And when helpful, I'll pull up more windows. See also http://lifehacker.com/5689579/five-best-distraction-free-writing-tools http://lifehacker.com/5689579/five-best-distraction-free-wri... for others who have felt the need for focused tools that remove the distractions of multiple window environments.
- glifchits 11y agoI don't really think anyone here is qualified to criticize Richard Stallman's computing habits.
- michaelcampbell 11y agoWhat qualifications are needed to criticize habits?
- glifchits 11y agoAt least some reasonable evidence that the habit is harmful. Hard to argue that Richard Stallman suffers (productivity, or otherwise) by doing his computing in text mode...
- an_ko 11y agoIf most of what you do on a computer is write, text-mode is great. I had my low-end laptop boot into text mode for years because I was more productive coding that way, and could always "startx" on a different TTY to get a GUI. Then I discovered tiling window managers and got a better laptop, but I still code mostly in a minimal terminal emulator.
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