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It's cynical, but true. A famous sports mantra is: "if you're not cheating, you're not trying". (Mark Grace, 1B, Chicago Cubs) Corp and individuals cheat all

It's cynical, but true. A famous sports mantra is: "if you're not cheating, you're not trying". (Mark Grace, 1B, Chicago Cubs) Corp and individuals cheat all the time. However, in most cases, the cheating are little white lies. In Corp world, their big lies that stay high up - with intention of never seeing the light of day.

pbhjpbhj 11y ago
Isn't that quote itself just a false rationalisation - 'I cheat but so does everyone else so it's not immoral'. Personally I never got anything out of winning at sports per se. What gives me a buzz is performing in a way I can be proud of. Sport requires adherence to regulations to work, I follow Kant's (2nd?) imperative in that respect. (FWIW I'm fond of playing quite a few sports). People cheat, corporations don't as they are just virtual groupings of people.
- bardworx 11y ago
  > Isn't that quote itself just a false rationalization - 'I cheat but so does everyone else so it's not immoral'. It could be - Here's a moral question: If you are an athlete who is attempting to get into the professional league...would you use performance enhancing drugs to "break in" if you had a small chance of getting caught? (I don't think this requires an answer - people internalize this differently and it could spur a discourse) > Personally I never got anything out of winning at sports per se. What gives me a buzz is performing in a way I can be proud of. I can think of some particular situations in sports (Hand of God - Maradona) when the stakes are high and you'll do anything to win. Technically, he didn't cheat, but he sure as hell didn't come forward either. > People cheat, corporations don't as they are just virtual groupings of people. You're right. What would you call a grouping of people with C-Level titles who "cheat" a cabal? Seems too ominous. I used corporation to describe the high level officials who profit most by cheating.

pbhjpbhj 11y ago

Isn't that quote itself just a false rationalisation - 'I cheat but so does everyone else so it's not immoral'. Personally I never got anything out of winning at sports per se. What gives me a buzz is performing in a way I can be proud of. Sport requires adherence to regulations to work, I follow Kant's (2nd?) imperative in that respect. (FWIW I'm fond of playing quite a few sports). People cheat, corporations don't as they are just virtual groupings of people.

bardworx 11y ago
> Isn't that quote itself just a false rationalization - 'I cheat but so does everyone else so it's not immoral'. It could be - Here's a moral question: If you are an athlete who is attempting to get into the professional league...would you use performance enhancing drugs to "break in" if you had a small chance of getting caught? (I don't think this requires an answer - people internalize this differently and it could spur a discourse) > Personally I never got anything out of winning at sports per se. What gives me a buzz is performing in a way I can be proud of. I can think of some particular situations in sports (Hand of God - Maradona) when the stakes are high and you'll do anything to win. Technically, he didn't cheat, but he sure as hell didn't come forward either. > People cheat, corporations don't as they are just virtual groupings of people. You're right. What would you call a grouping of people with C-Level titles who "cheat" a cabal? Seems too ominous. I used corporation to describe the high level officials who profit most by cheating.