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Because its morally bankrupt?

• yummyfajitas 11y ago
  It's morally bankrupt to give people a job?
• cpursley 11y ago
  And taking someone else's money at gunpoint is not? Taxes ain't voluntary, you know.
  • run4yourlives2 11y ago
    Of course it's voluntary. You are more than welcome to leave the country.
    • cobaltblue 11y ago
      The US still demands my taxes 10 years after I leave the country.
      • cpursley 11y ago
        Minor correction: Not 10 years after you leave, but for 10 years after walking into a US embassy and relinquishing citizenship. Only then, you have the privilege to pay tax to a state you no longer are a citizen of for the next 10 years. For all other US citizens working overseas, you owe uncle sam a tax return every year no matter if it's for 5 years or 50. Only two nations in the world tax their citizens who live abroad. The other one is an African dictatorship.
        • doktrin 11y ago
          > Minor correction: Not 10 years after you leave, but for 10 years after walking into a US embassy and relinquishing citizenship What specifically are you guys referring to? I can't find any reference to a 10-year tax obligation after renouncing US citizenshp. Is this part of the post 2008 expatriation tax?
          • cpursley 11y ago
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expatriation_tax#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expatriation_tax#United_States http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/23/expatriation-exit-tax-limbaugh-obamacare-personal-finance-robert-wood.html http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/23/expatriation-exit-tax-limba... http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2015/02/11/thousands-renounce-u-s-citizenship-hitting-new-record-not-just-over-taxes/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2015/02/11/thousands-... https://www.irs.gov/Individuals/International-Taxpayers/Expatriation-Tax https://www.irs.gov/Individuals/International-Taxpayers/Expa...
            • doktrin 11y ago
              Thanks for the info. That was a frustrating read.
        • LunaSea 11y ago
          What would stop you from not paying ?
          • doktrin 11y ago
            Presumably the long arm of the US judicial system. I doubt they'd send drones after you in a non-extradition country, but short of that there's a lot they could potentially do to make your life very unpleasant.
    • khgvljhkb 11y ago
      So you can choose: * Pay up to the state * Get thrown in jail * Go in exile
      • run4yourlives2 11y ago
        ? Or option 4 (by far the most popular) - emigrate to another area.
  • CuriousSkeptic 11y ago
    Under the assumption that everything you have and get is just and fair I agree. It is a strong assumption though, and It deserves to be examined. Externalities: Do you contribute to pollution? If so should you not then pay a fair price in compensation to us all for that privilege? Rule of law: Do you derive rent, or benefits, from property? Are you not dependent on society to define those property rights, and enforce them? Should you not pay a fair price in compensation for that privilege?
• bweitzman 11y ago
  See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10367855 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10367855