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They're not ecologists, they're anti-globalization anarchists that protested against a new airport by destroying shops in downtown Nantes. They recently threw a

They're not ecologists, they're anti-globalization anarchists that protested against a new airport by destroying shops in downtown Nantes. They recently threw at the police candles that people left at the memorial for the Paris attacks. I consider myself an ecologist but I have no sympathy for these people.

stefantalpalaru 11y ago
Can you read French? https://wiki.laquadrature.net/%C3%89tat_urgence/Recensement#Assignation_.C3.A0_r.C3.A9sidence_de_militants_.28.C3.A9cologistes_et.2Fou_extr.C3.AAme-gauche.29 https://wiki.laquadrature.net/%C3%89tat_urgence/Recensement#... People who commit crimes should be fined or arrested. These are preventive house arrests for crimes that they might commit in the future. You really don't see the problem with this?
- GrumpyBen 11y ago
  They also banned alcohol sales at night in some places for the same simple reason: the police has better things to do right now than dealing with drunk people or anarchists
  - Kristine1975 11y ago
    So much for "liberté"... which precisely seems to be what gotchange was talking about.
  - sitkack 11y ago
    You didn't respond to the question.
    - GrumpyBen 11y ago
      They are known violent protestors. I don't care much about the freedom of "environmentalists" that protest against capitalism by burning down stores. Especially while the country is in state of emergency.
metanoetic 11y ago
And yet, they're still not ISIS terrorists. The state of emergency was used to stop public discourse and dissent - both anarchists and non-anarchists were banned from attending marches during the Paris climate summit.
- GrumpyBen 11y ago
  The police had to protect the COP21 and the visit from more than 150 head of states. They also have to protect administrations, newspaper offices, jewish organizations and others potential terrorist targets. There's just not enough police forces to handle all this, plus marches and anarchist protests
  - slang800 11y ago
    Not having proper resources isn't a reason to infringe upon the freedoms of the people. If the police can't handle their work, then they should just ignore less important crimes and focus their efforts on the stuff that matters. Otherwise the French government could use a lack of resources as an excuse to silence whoever they want. With a justification like that, they could make arrests for thought-crime.
  - TheOtherHobbes 11y ago
    Who's more of a threat to the public - random candle-throwing anarchists, or the heads of state of the biggest and most militarised and industrialised nations in the world?
- XorNot 11y ago
  Terrorists are terrorists regardless of affiliation. ISIS doesn't have organized operations in the west it just takes credit for lone acts. By and large its not clear ISIS actually wants people to commit terror attacks in the west since it gets potentially useful recruits killed not fighting for territory in the middle East (note they are big on how you should definitely move to the ISIS territories).
  - metanoetic 11y ago
calandoa 11y ago
> They recently threw at the police candles that people left at the memorial for the Paris attacks What I see is people quietly holding their hands around the memorial, and cops coming and stamping everything to get them out. http://www.taranisnews.com/post/134413704538/first-person-view-cop21-paris-29112015 http://www.taranisnews.com/post/134413704538/first-person-vi... (~16')

stefantalpalaru 11y ago

Can you read French? https://wiki.laquadrature.net/%C3%89tat_urgence/Recensement#Assignation_.C3.A0_r.C3.A9sidence_de_militants_.28.C3.A9cologistes_et.2Fou_extr.C3.AAme-gauche.29 https://wiki.laquadrature.net/%C3%89tat_urgence/Recensement#... People who commit crimes should be fined or arrested. These are preventive house arrests for crimes that they might commit in the future. You really don't see the problem with this?

GrumpyBen 11y ago
They also banned alcohol sales at night in some places for the same simple reason: the police has better things to do right now than dealing with drunk people or anarchists
- Kristine1975 11y ago
  So much for "liberté"... which precisely seems to be what gotchange was talking about.
- sitkack 11y ago
  You didn't respond to the question.
  - GrumpyBen 11y ago
    They are known violent protestors. I don't care much about the freedom of "environmentalists" that protest against capitalism by burning down stores. Especially while the country is in state of emergency.

metanoetic 11y ago

And yet, they're still not ISIS terrorists. The state of emergency was used to stop public discourse and dissent - both anarchists and non-anarchists were banned from attending marches during the Paris climate summit.

GrumpyBen 11y ago
The police had to protect the COP21 and the visit from more than 150 head of states. They also have to protect administrations, newspaper offices, jewish organizations and others potential terrorist targets. There's just not enough police forces to handle all this, plus marches and anarchist protests
- slang800 11y ago
  Not having proper resources isn't a reason to infringe upon the freedoms of the people. If the police can't handle their work, then they should just ignore less important crimes and focus their efforts on the stuff that matters. Otherwise the French government could use a lack of resources as an excuse to silence whoever they want. With a justification like that, they could make arrests for thought-crime.
- TheOtherHobbes 11y ago
  Who's more of a threat to the public - random candle-throwing anarchists, or the heads of state of the biggest and most militarised and industrialised nations in the world?
XorNot 11y ago
Terrorists are terrorists regardless of affiliation. ISIS doesn't have organized operations in the west it just takes credit for lone acts. By and large its not clear ISIS actually wants people to commit terror attacks in the west since it gets potentially useful recruits killed not fighting for territory in the middle East (note they are big on how you should definitely move to the ISIS territories).
- metanoetic 11y ago

calandoa 11y ago

> They recently threw at the police candles that people left at the memorial for the Paris attacks What I see is people quietly holding their hands around the memorial, and cops coming and stamping everything to get them out. http://www.taranisnews.com/post/134413704538/first-person-view-cop21-paris-29112015 http://www.taranisnews.com/post/134413704538/first-person-vi... (~16')