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> SV, entrepreneurship, and startup culture have had such a profound effect on the west Only in your tiny bubble. People seriously believe this?
by AngrySkillzz 11y ago
> SV, entrepreneurship, and startup culture have had such a profound effect on the west
Only in your tiny bubble. People seriously believe this?
- peterwwillis 11y agoYeah i'm really not sure if that was a troll or not. "Heroes of a movement"? Can you actually call financial investment trends a "movement"?
- GalacticDomin8r 11y agoMore like "I am not aware that I troll therefore I am not."
- EC1 11y agoThat is a brilliant quote.
- teej 11y agoThe modern Tony Stark is literally based on Elon Musk. Interest in Computer Science programs jumped after the Social Network movie came out. I think there's more truth in roymurdocks' comment then you give it credit for.
- Apocryphon 11y agoStark is just as based upon older tech moguls like Larry Ellison, Richard Branson, or even Steve Jobs. Interest in archery jumped after the Hunger Games comes out. SV culture is significant, yes, but is it disproportionately so compared to other things?
- toyg 11y agoMovie-Stark's mannerism is openly based on Larry Ellison, who helped finance (and even had cameos in) the IronMan films. Other self-styled magnates were also an influence, of course, but Ellison is the big one, afaik.
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- DanielBMarkham 11y agoYou realize you are posting this using about 99% tech developed in the valley, right? I like the idea. Not sure if it will fly or not -- after all, once you've read one nerd-takes-the-world story, you've read them all. But we could do with a new genre.
- vkou 11y agoI didn't realize Bell Labs (Unix), Microsoft (Widndows), CERN (HTTP), and DARPA (TCP/IP) were based out of Silicon Valley.
- GalacticDomin8r 11y agoHe meant the really important ones like twitter and facebook and the other oft over-praised SV "tech".
- CPLX 11y agoDon't forget Flooz
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- peterwwillis 11y agoLike my Nokia phone running Windows using the World Wide Web over 802.11 to an Alcatel DSL modem connecting to a Motorola DSLAM? - damnit, vkou beat me to the punch
- ethanbond 11y agoWhat... Chrome and a Macbook? Yeah, that's certainly 99% of the tech necessary for me to be posting this.
- DanielBMarkham 11y agoAs the norm, my comments were read too literally. The topic for this thread was the future of fiction, not the exact location where most technology was developed. "SV" in this case is just a plug-in. If it makes you feel any better, substitute Austin, or Redmond, or whatnot. The exact location is not important. "Westerns" aren't all about things that happen in the western U.S. Star Trek was a western.
- jdminhbg 11y agoThe bubble exists, but it's ludicrous to believe that SV startups don't have profound effects outside it. What % of people use Google, or Facebook, or Android/iOS every day in the west?
- Apocryphon 11y agoCan either of them be truly considered "startups" anymore? And Facebook wasn't even invented in SV.
- jdminhbg 11y agoWell if you tautologically redefine "startups" to mean "as yet unsuccessful startups," then no I guess there isn't much effect outside the Valley bubble. But those companies all started small in the Valley and grew exponentially along the classic "tech startup" path.
- Apocryphon 11y agoI would think the poster child for startups are unicorns: Uber, AirBnB, Square, Tesla, etc. Google and Facebook are far too down the line to be considered the stereotypical SF or Palo Alto up-and-coming challenger.
- toyg 11y agoYeah but how many companies actually adopted SV ways and values? Banks are still banks, you still need a suit. Automakers are still automakers, you still need to be there 9-to-5. Investors are still investors, and outside a few precious hubs (SV, NY, Boston) they won't just drop millions on a bunch of nerdy tweenagers with ambitions (unless they're Someone's Child, of course). Politicians talk a lot but the big public-investment moolah still goes almost entirely to large-workforce and well-connected companies. SV companies influence consumers' lives, sure; but not really how post-fordist capitalism works.
- djhn 11y agoAndroid and iOS phones? They might as well be any generic cheap Nokia, flavour du jour. Did Finnish culture have profound effects on the 40-60% of mobile phone owners at the time?
- taytus 11y agoOh yes, they believe it.