> They care a lot about being around people that care about dress, and turning up in a suit is a very reliable indicator that a person cares about dress. I dis

> They care a lot about being around people that care about dress, and turning up in a suit is a very reliable indicator that a person cares about dress. I disagree with this. Showing up in "a suit", in most cases, isn't caring about dress, it's thinking that a required formality of dress is necessary. People that care about clothes, and are fashion enthusiasts, will show up in Thom Browne, CdG, Engineered Garments, etc. - or even just basic Club Monaco-type stuff if they're don't have a giant amount of disposable income. While adherence to arbitrary fashion formality levels may be an indicator of unawareness, an interest in fashion seems incredibly unrelated to programming skill, unless the programmer is expected to be solely interested in programming - in which case, they should also rule out runners, rock climbers, guitarists, etc.