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I am not surprised that you don't like exercise. There is a general trend in society to exercise instead of just live an active lifestyle by playing sport, goin

by 1563565 11y ago

I am not surprised that you don't like exercise. There is a general trend in society to exercise instead of just live an active lifestyle by playing sport, going for walks, helping your friends move house, and so on. Being active develops your body in a much better way as well. Muscles and tendons are much more complex than what is suggested by people who lift weights. Squatting heavy for 10 reps is only going to result in a very specific type of muscular development. Muscles have multiple compartments as determined by the various nerve endings. They have different types of muscle fibres and there are multiple smaller muscles all over the place. It is pretty easy to recognise people who lift weights and don't do anything else because their bodies look strange. Many people at gyms have bigger chests than the worlds greatest fighters, bigger legs than the fastest people in the world, and wider shoulders than the fastest swimmers. Their muscles are counterproductive to being athletic as their legs rub together when they walk and so on. It is not just about size, it is about everything. No it was the fault of crossfit. Most likely you had overdeveloped internal rotators which caused impingement due to poor posture. Any responsible trainer would get you to do facepulls and rows and maybe posterior chain exercises like deadlifts to correct your posture before you did overhead work. Injuries at the gym are extremely common because the body is more complex than some people think. Having fun outdoors should be people's main source of exercise, not rep 1, rep 2, protein shake. Nutrition is another topic. Weight lifting is to being active as supplements, frozen meals, processed shit is to actual real food. And no you don't need 500 grams of protein per day. The whole fitness industry is garbage. It presents these bizarre bodies that nobody finds attractive as ideals and so people try to obtain them.

hoodoof 11y ago
>> I am not surprised that you don't like exercise. I didn't say that - I like exercise, I just don't love it. I'm not a fanatic.
- 1563567 11y ago
  You said you value exercise, which reads as you value the result it brings but don't actually like doing it.
TeMPOraL 11y ago
> There is a general trend in society to exercise instead of just live an active lifestyle by playing sport, going for walks, helping your friends move house, and so on. Your friends move house only so often. The trend to exercise is unfortunately a direct consequence of technological progress - the move away from physically demanding jobs towards sitting for most of the day. Also, honestly, there's so much other stuff to do besides work, that not many have time for "an active lifestyle". So it's exercising for most of us, because it's more efficient. > Having fun outdoors should be people's main source of exercise, It should be, but it can't be. Not in our society, while we're still expected to work. Maybe after UBI comes, we'll have time and means to have fun outdoors. > The whole fitness industry is garbage. That I agree with, but it's mostly because it's pseudoscience and making money off people's vanity.
- 1563565 11y ago
  I think it is also due to the individualistic nature of modern society, which is often related to work commitments, but not entirely. People want to work out at a time that suits them and it is hard to organise everyone. Crossfit seems to have this problem as well so I don't see why people don't just play sport. Most people who do crossfit don't even look that fit. When in ancient history did humans need to lift 60kg over their heads anyway?
  - TeMPOraL 11y ago
    > so I don't see why people don't just play sport Sport you usually play with people you know - therefore, hard to coordinate all the schedules and commitments. > When in ancient history did humans need to lift 60kg over their heads anyway? Not often, but then they spent most of the day lifting or carrying 10kg weights. I think it's about effort/time tradeoff.
    - 1563567 11y ago
      That trade-off changes the way the muscles develop. Going to the gym isn't just a magic shortcut.
HillRat 11y ago
I'm not sure you're addressing Crossfit. While it has its faults, CF is all about "functional movements" similar to what you're arguing for. No WOD consists of "[s]quatting heavy for ten reps;" instead, they're combinations of lightweight movements. CF athletes are generally built more like a gymnast (or a Navy SEAL) than a gym rat.
- 1563567 11y ago
  Yes I am. There is no such thing as functional movements. Whatever you do is functional to whatever you are doing. They do lighter squats and heavier squats for reps. Look at any crossfit facebook page. For example: https://www.facebook.com/CrossFit.Coorparoo/?fref=ts https://www.facebook.com/CrossFit.Coorparoo/?fref=ts You will see people who have: massive arms that are completely out of proportion with their shoulders. Most people are not designed to have arms that big, which is why they don't match their shoulders. Take these guys for example: https://www.facebook.com/CrossFit.Coorparoo/photos/pcb.1630260180588843/1630258833922311/?type=3&theater https://www.facebook.com/CrossFit.Coorparoo/photos/pcb.16302... Then there are the girls with massive legs: https://www.facebook.com/CrossFit.Coorparoo/photos/a.1627123420902519.1073741843.1442597876021742/1627123927569135/?type=3&theater https://www.facebook.com/CrossFit.Coorparoo/photos/a.1627123... and the guys with muscles that look like fat worms have invaded their body: https://www.facebook.com/CrossFit.Coorparoo/photos/a.1627123420902519.1073741843.1442597876021742/1627124094235785/?type=3&theater https://www.facebook.com/CrossFit.Coorparoo/photos/a.1627123... They are a joke and the media is trying to make people think those types of things are attractive but the general population do not find them attractive at all.
  - nailer 11y ago
    Most people who do crossfit don't look like that, and they don't want to. Guys have less beer guts and better arms than the general population, girls are slimmer and have shoulder muscles. That's about it. There are very few ultra jacked dudes and women.

by 1563565 11y ago

hoodoof 11y ago

>> I am not surprised that you don't like exercise. I didn't say that - I like exercise, I just don't love it. I'm not a fanatic.

1563567 11y ago
You said you value exercise, which reads as you value the result it brings but don't actually like doing it.

TeMPOraL 11y ago

> There is a general trend in society to exercise instead of just live an active lifestyle by playing sport, going for walks, helping your friends move house, and so on. Your friends move house only so often. The trend to exercise is unfortunately a direct consequence of technological progress - the move away from physically demanding jobs towards sitting for most of the day. Also, honestly, there's so much other stuff to do besides work, that not many have time for "an active lifestyle". So it's exercising for most of us, because it's more efficient. > Having fun outdoors should be people's main source of exercise, It should be, but it can't be. Not in our society, while we're still expected to work. Maybe after UBI comes, we'll have time and means to have fun outdoors. > The whole fitness industry is garbage. That I agree with, but it's mostly because it's pseudoscience and making money off people's vanity.

1563565 11y ago
I think it is also due to the individualistic nature of modern society, which is often related to work commitments, but not entirely. People want to work out at a time that suits them and it is hard to organise everyone. Crossfit seems to have this problem as well so I don't see why people don't just play sport. Most people who do crossfit don't even look that fit. When in ancient history did humans need to lift 60kg over their heads anyway?
- TeMPOraL 11y ago
  > so I don't see why people don't just play sport Sport you usually play with people you know - therefore, hard to coordinate all the schedules and commitments. > When in ancient history did humans need to lift 60kg over their heads anyway? Not often, but then they spent most of the day lifting or carrying 10kg weights. I think it's about effort/time tradeoff.
  - 1563567 11y ago
    That trade-off changes the way the muscles develop. Going to the gym isn't just a magic shortcut.

HillRat 11y ago

I'm not sure you're addressing Crossfit. While it has its faults, CF is all about "functional movements" similar to what you're arguing for. No WOD consists of "[s]quatting heavy for ten reps;" instead, they're combinations of lightweight movements. CF athletes are generally built more like a gymnast (or a Navy SEAL) than a gym rat.

1563567 11y ago
Yes I am. There is no such thing as functional movements. Whatever you do is functional to whatever you are doing. They do lighter squats and heavier squats for reps. Look at any crossfit facebook page. For example: https://www.facebook.com/CrossFit.Coorparoo/?fref=ts https://www.facebook.com/CrossFit.Coorparoo/?fref=ts You will see people who have: massive arms that are completely out of proportion with their shoulders. Most people are not designed to have arms that big, which is why they don't match their shoulders. Take these guys for example: https://www.facebook.com/CrossFit.Coorparoo/photos/pcb.1630260180588843/1630258833922311/?type=3&theater https://www.facebook.com/CrossFit.Coorparoo/photos/pcb.16302... Then there are the girls with massive legs: https://www.facebook.com/CrossFit.Coorparoo/photos/a.1627123420902519.1073741843.1442597876021742/1627123927569135/?type=3&theater https://www.facebook.com/CrossFit.Coorparoo/photos/a.1627123... and the guys with muscles that look like fat worms have invaded their body: https://www.facebook.com/CrossFit.Coorparoo/photos/a.1627123420902519.1073741843.1442597876021742/1627124094235785/?type=3&theater https://www.facebook.com/CrossFit.Coorparoo/photos/a.1627123... They are a joke and the media is trying to make people think those types of things are attractive but the general population do not find them attractive at all.
- nailer 11y ago
  Most people who do crossfit don't look like that, and they don't want to. Guys have less beer guts and better arms than the general population, girls are slimmer and have shoulder muscles. That's about it. There are very few ultra jacked dudes and women.