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CrossFit works for me. The reason CrossFit is better - for me - than the ordinary gym, is because in the past I would join a gym and not know what to do, and n

by hoodoof 11y ago

CrossFit works for me. The reason CrossFit is better - for me - than the ordinary gym, is because in the past I would join a gym and not know what to do, and not know how to use the equipment, and not have a specific time to be there, and not have anyone to ask what to do, and feel silly, and stop going (but keep paying). CrossFit is like group personal training, not a cult. The trainer is very good and there is a big focus on safety and avoiding injury. The trainers are always available to help and guide you on how to exercise properly and safely. In fact I think it's much safer than going to an ordinary gym where you are left to work it out yourself and you'll probably do it wrong, endangering your health. I don't love exercising - I value it but nothing more than that. So at CrossFit I don't need to think about it. I go along and get told what to do and it's a balanced exercise program. I just try not to go too hard - I'm in it for the long haul. It's friendly but it's not a church or a love-in. I did get a shoulder injury (currently recovering from it) but it's because of my years of sedentary living my muscles are weak and things like shoulder muscles aren't held together well by atrophied muscle. That's not the fault of CrossFit.

jmspring 11y ago
>The reason CrossFit is better - for me Glad it works for you. > CrossFit is like group personal training, not a cult. This is relative. > The trainer is very good and there is a big focus on safety and avoiding injury. This is also relative and a bigger problem. Crossfit pushes profit motives over competence. Living in Santa Cruz, ground zero for Crossfit, the over zealousness of opening gyms, inconsistency of quality, etc. is pretty prominent. You find the routine that works for you. For me, Crossfit reminds me of Bikram Yoga, the business/franchise aspect takes precedent over quality. Myself, I've seen similar in yoga and martial arts. But, if you find a program that works for you, that is all that should matter.
1563565 11y ago
I am not surprised that you don't like exercise. There is a general trend in society to exercise instead of just live an active lifestyle by playing sport, going for walks, helping your friends move house, and so on. Being active develops your body in a much better way as well. Muscles and tendons are much more complex than what is suggested by people who lift weights. Squatting heavy for 10 reps is only going to result in a very specific type of muscular development. Muscles have multiple compartments as determined by the various nerve endings. They have different types of muscle fibres and there are multiple smaller muscles all over the place. It is pretty easy to recognise people who lift weights and don't do anything else because their bodies look strange. Many people at gyms have bigger chests than the worlds greatest fighters, bigger legs than the fastest people in the world, and wider shoulders than the fastest swimmers. Their muscles are counterproductive to being athletic as their legs rub together when they walk and so on. It is not just about size, it is about everything. No it was the fault of crossfit. Most likely you had overdeveloped internal rotators which caused impingement due to poor posture. Any responsible trainer would get you to do facepulls and rows and maybe posterior chain exercises like deadlifts to correct your posture before you did overhead work. Injuries at the gym are extremely common because the body is more complex than some people think. Having fun outdoors should be people's main source of exercise, not rep 1, rep 2, protein shake. Nutrition is another topic. Weight lifting is to being active as supplements, frozen meals, processed shit is to actual real food. And no you don't need 500 grams of protein per day. The whole fitness industry is garbage. It presents these bizarre bodies that nobody finds attractive as ideals and so people try to obtain them.
- hoodoof 11y ago
  >> I am not surprised that you don't like exercise. I didn't say that - I like exercise, I just don't love it. I'm not a fanatic.
  - 1563567 11y ago
    You said you value exercise, which reads as you value the result it brings but don't actually like doing it.
- TeMPOraL 11y ago
  > There is a general trend in society to exercise instead of just live an active lifestyle by playing sport, going for walks, helping your friends move house, and so on. Your friends move house only so often. The trend to exercise is unfortunately a direct consequence of technological progress - the move away from physically demanding jobs towards sitting for most of the day. Also, honestly, there's so much other stuff to do besides work, that not many have time for "an active lifestyle". So it's exercising for most of us, because it's more efficient. > Having fun outdoors should be people's main source of exercise, It should be, but it can't be. Not in our society, while we're still expected to work. Maybe after UBI comes, we'll have time and means to have fun outdoors. > The whole fitness industry is garbage. That I agree with, but it's mostly because it's pseudoscience and making money off people's vanity.
  - 1563565 11y ago
    I think it is also due to the individualistic nature of modern society, which is often related to work commitments, but not entirely. People want to work out at a time that suits them and it is hard to organise everyone. Crossfit seems to have this problem as well so I don't see why people don't just play sport. Most people who do crossfit don't even look that fit. When in ancient history did humans need to lift 60kg over their heads anyway?
    - TeMPOraL 11y ago
      > so I don't see why people don't just play sport Sport you usually play with people you know - therefore, hard to coordinate all the schedules and commitments. > When in ancient history did humans need to lift 60kg over their heads anyway? Not often, but then they spent most of the day lifting or carrying 10kg weights. I think it's about effort/time tradeoff.
MegaDeKay 11y ago
> The trainer is very good and there is a big focus on safety and avoiding injury. The trainers are always available to help and guide you on how to exercise properly and safely. In fact I think it's much safer than going to an ordinary gym where you are left to work it out yourself and you'll probably do it wrong, endangering your health. You are fortunate to have a good trainer at your box, but you don't have Crossfit to thank for that. The minimum requirement for opening a box is a one weekend training course to get your Level 1 certification. That's it. Considering the skill level required to properly coach some of the Olympic lifts involved in Crossfit training, a weekend hardly scratches the surface. As for the big focus on safety and avoiding injury, a number of WODs have heavy lifts for time that invite form breakdown and injury (e.g. "Diane"). Then there is always the "Uncle Rhabdo" mascot and the strange glorification of ripping blisters off your hands doing kipping pullups, but I digress.
karmelapple 11y ago
I doubt many professional personal trainers would have recommended someone do the routine that caused you an injury. Working out is kind of intended to do the exact opposite - I'm surprised you do not hold place more responsibility for the injury on the instructor. If, after some kind of initial evaluation, they encouraged you to do something you couldn't actually safely do, I think the fault lies more in the crossfit trainer than yourself.
joeguilmette 11y ago
>> CrossFit works for me. >> The trainer is very good and there is a big focus on safety and avoiding injury. >> I did get a shoulder injury (currently recovering from it) but it's because of my years of sedentary living my muscles are weak and things like shoulder muscles aren't held together well by atrophied muscle. That's not the fault of CrossFit. My mother used to be in a cult and I spent a good part of my childhood living on one of the compounds. Still, I am always surprised to find how easy it is for people to believe and say things that make no logical sense. Quite obviously, if your trainer really was very good with a big focus on safety and avoiding injury, he would've known that you had weak shoulder muscles. I would bet good money that you suffered this injury during an exercise suggested and supervised by a 'safety conscious' CrossFit instructor. This is no one's fault _except_ CrossFit and your trainer. You paid them a ton of money to help you train safely and they failed.

by hoodoof 11y ago

jmspring 11y ago

>The reason CrossFit is better - for me Glad it works for you. > CrossFit is like group personal training, not a cult. This is relative. > The trainer is very good and there is a big focus on safety and avoiding injury. This is also relative and a bigger problem. Crossfit pushes profit motives over competence. Living in Santa Cruz, ground zero for Crossfit, the over zealousness of opening gyms, inconsistency of quality, etc. is pretty prominent. You find the routine that works for you. For me, Crossfit reminds me of Bikram Yoga, the business/franchise aspect takes precedent over quality. Myself, I've seen similar in yoga and martial arts. But, if you find a program that works for you, that is all that should matter.

1563565 11y ago

I am not surprised that you don't like exercise. There is a general trend in society to exercise instead of just live an active lifestyle by playing sport, going for walks, helping your friends move house, and so on. Being active develops your body in a much better way as well. Muscles and tendons are much more complex than what is suggested by people who lift weights. Squatting heavy for 10 reps is only going to result in a very specific type of muscular development. Muscles have multiple compartments as determined by the various nerve endings. They have different types of muscle fibres and there are multiple smaller muscles all over the place. It is pretty easy to recognise people who lift weights and don't do anything else because their bodies look strange. Many people at gyms have bigger chests than the worlds greatest fighters, bigger legs than the fastest people in the world, and wider shoulders than the fastest swimmers. Their muscles are counterproductive to being athletic as their legs rub together when they walk and so on. It is not just about size, it is about everything. No it was the fault of crossfit. Most likely you had overdeveloped internal rotators which caused impingement due to poor posture. Any responsible trainer would get you to do facepulls and rows and maybe posterior chain exercises like deadlifts to correct your posture before you did overhead work. Injuries at the gym are extremely common because the body is more complex than some people think. Having fun outdoors should be people's main source of exercise, not rep 1, rep 2, protein shake. Nutrition is another topic. Weight lifting is to being active as supplements, frozen meals, processed shit is to actual real food. And no you don't need 500 grams of protein per day. The whole fitness industry is garbage. It presents these bizarre bodies that nobody finds attractive as ideals and so people try to obtain them.

hoodoof 11y ago
>> I am not surprised that you don't like exercise. I didn't say that - I like exercise, I just don't love it. I'm not a fanatic.
- 1563567 11y ago
  You said you value exercise, which reads as you value the result it brings but don't actually like doing it.
TeMPOraL 11y ago
> There is a general trend in society to exercise instead of just live an active lifestyle by playing sport, going for walks, helping your friends move house, and so on. Your friends move house only so often. The trend to exercise is unfortunately a direct consequence of technological progress - the move away from physically demanding jobs towards sitting for most of the day. Also, honestly, there's so much other stuff to do besides work, that not many have time for "an active lifestyle". So it's exercising for most of us, because it's more efficient. > Having fun outdoors should be people's main source of exercise, It should be, but it can't be. Not in our society, while we're still expected to work. Maybe after UBI comes, we'll have time and means to have fun outdoors. > The whole fitness industry is garbage. That I agree with, but it's mostly because it's pseudoscience and making money off people's vanity.
- 1563565 11y ago
  I think it is also due to the individualistic nature of modern society, which is often related to work commitments, but not entirely. People want to work out at a time that suits them and it is hard to organise everyone. Crossfit seems to have this problem as well so I don't see why people don't just play sport. Most people who do crossfit don't even look that fit. When in ancient history did humans need to lift 60kg over their heads anyway?
  - TeMPOraL 11y ago
    > so I don't see why people don't just play sport Sport you usually play with people you know - therefore, hard to coordinate all the schedules and commitments. > When in ancient history did humans need to lift 60kg over their heads anyway? Not often, but then they spent most of the day lifting or carrying 10kg weights. I think it's about effort/time tradeoff.

MegaDeKay 11y ago

> The trainer is very good and there is a big focus on safety and avoiding injury. The trainers are always available to help and guide you on how to exercise properly and safely. In fact I think it's much safer than going to an ordinary gym where you are left to work it out yourself and you'll probably do it wrong, endangering your health. You are fortunate to have a good trainer at your box, but you don't have Crossfit to thank for that. The minimum requirement for opening a box is a one weekend training course to get your Level 1 certification. That's it. Considering the skill level required to properly coach some of the Olympic lifts involved in Crossfit training, a weekend hardly scratches the surface. As for the big focus on safety and avoiding injury, a number of WODs have heavy lifts for time that invite form breakdown and injury (e.g. "Diane"). Then there is always the "Uncle Rhabdo" mascot and the strange glorification of ripping blisters off your hands doing kipping pullups, but I digress.

karmelapple 11y ago

I doubt many professional personal trainers would have recommended someone do the routine that caused you an injury. Working out is kind of intended to do the exact opposite - I'm surprised you do not hold place more responsibility for the injury on the instructor. If, after some kind of initial evaluation, they encouraged you to do something you couldn't actually safely do, I think the fault lies more in the crossfit trainer than yourself.

joeguilmette 11y ago

>> CrossFit works for me. >> The trainer is very good and there is a big focus on safety and avoiding injury. >> I did get a shoulder injury (currently recovering from it) but it's because of my years of sedentary living my muscles are weak and things like shoulder muscles aren't held together well by atrophied muscle. That's not the fault of CrossFit. My mother used to be in a cult and I spent a good part of my childhood living on one of the compounds. Still, I am always surprised to find how easy it is for people to believe and say things that make no logical sense. Quite obviously, if your trainer really was very good with a big focus on safety and avoiding injury, he would've known that you had weak shoulder muscles. I would bet good money that you suffered this injury during an exercise suggested and supervised by a 'safety conscious' CrossFit instructor. This is no one's fault _except_ CrossFit and your trainer. You paid them a ton of money to help you train safely and they failed.