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After 5 Years there's a new 7zip non-beta release
- nextweek2 11y agoI am always amazed 7zip hasn't supplanted WinRar and the Rar format.
- skrebbel 11y agoWell, on my planet it has.
- JayJee 11y agoYou know people who use WinRAR?
- dfc 11y agoHave you ever downloaded a scene release?
- JayJee 11y agoYou do realise you can decompress .rar using 7zip right?
- DanBC 11y agoBut the scene releases are not using 7zip to create the rars, are they?
- pen2l 11y agoAmong the movers and shakers in the scene, isn't there generally a predilection to use free software over non-free software? E.g. the only time I run across matroska contained movies is when it's released from the scene.
- lmm 11y agoNot really. There's a general predilection for the best software available, especially since they're unconstrained by purchase costs. Often the free program is the best, but not always.
- ce4 11y ago"Best software" - Are you joking? Scene releases use winrar mostly for packing and splitting. Usually null-compression is used.
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- jmnicolas 11y agoYeah it's usually an ISO within multiple RARs within multiple ZIPs. And this is when they don't act playful and use an obscure archive format that can only be extracted with a (paid or free but infected) closed source app. Depending on the platform I'm using I have some code in bash, Powershell and C# to deal with this. Non coders must have a hard time !
- rustynails 11y agoJdownloader automatically extracts archives, no fancy scripts needed. From my observation, most downloads are rar format (95% at a guess), but it doesn't really matter if it's rar or 7z as the differences in resource usage are negligible. The good news is that most archives support free extraction of both formats.
- i336_ 11y agoWhat formats are you referring to? o.o
- jmnicolas 11y agoIt's bin a while since I encountered it, but I remember having to hunt for MagicISO or PowerISO to open several archives that I couldn't find anywhere else.
- Strom 11y agoI and everyone I know locally uses WinRAR, nobody uses 7zip.
- LeoNatan25 11y agoYou don't!?
- deepsun 11y agoIn Russia RAR is still the default format :(
- s_kilk 11y agoSeems to be mostly Russians and warez scene kids still using winrar
- RDeckard 11y agoWhat about Ukrainians?
- jakobdabo 11y agoRAR has some unique built-in characteristics like recovery record (useful when archiving on optical discs, or any other media which can degrade in time) and recovery volumes (which was a life-saver feature in the age of floppy disks).
- digi_owl 11y agoAnother major contributor is likely that with rar you can make a multi-file self-extractor. Seem to recall that before broadband and torrents, many a pirated game was released as a split rar .exe that could fit on floppies and was spread across numerous upload sites. Dump them all in a dir, run the exe, and game on...
- oneweekwonder 11y agoI believe winzip had the same feature of creating a exe zip spanning over multiple files, for using on floppies.
- soylentcola 11y agoI only remember using that feature when zipping something up myself and it would have you keep inserting floppies as needed. I'm sure you could then post images of the floppies for distribution but I never really saw that done. It was always .r00, .r01, etc on usenet.
- digi_owl 11y agoTrue, though i think the making scheme of rar was more helpful. Also, rar compressed various file formats (video and audio specifically) better.
- i336_ 11y ago7z can't do the exe bit I don't think, but it can make split archives of arbitrary size (in bytes).
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- rocky1138 11y agoThis is because, on Windows, you can't double click a 7z file and have it open 7zip. If they fixed that, they'd have a winner.
- e2e8 11y agoIf you have .7z files associated with 7z File Manager, it will open on double click. Is that not the default on installation?
- eco 11y agoIt is the default. It's always worked for me just fine.
- rocky1138 11y agoYou are so lucky. I've installed on every Windows machine I've had for years and have never had it work out of the box. I've got to right-click a .7z and choose open with -> 7zip. I'll take a look at my setup when I get home tonight.
- cratering 11y agoYou can change the associations in the program settings but you have to be in administrator mode, otherwise they don't stick. http://www.7-zip.org/faq.html http://www.7-zip.org/faq.html
- DiThi 11y agoIt doesn't associate on setup. You have to open 7zip, go to options and you see this http://i.imgur.com/12dpE7G.png http://i.imgur.com/12dpE7G.png I usually click "Select all" then unselect ISO. Done. Edit: other person replied it must be opened in Administrator mode. That explains why I didn't have it associated.
- Shorel 11y agoYou double click on the file and Windows shows two 7zip programs as an option. If you choose the wrong one it will not work later. And it will not repeat the dialog box with the options.
- lmm 11y agoThe 7zip program is much less nice-looking. And rar works.
- Grue3 11y agoI haven't seen a RAR in ages.
- scott_karana 11y agoThe changelog is sparse, but Igor has some comments on the release on Sourceforge. http://sourceforge.net/p/sevenzip/discussion/45797/thread/6cc0d82c/ http://sourceforge.net/p/sevenzip/discussion/45797/thread/6c...
- dave2000 11y agoWhy are they still using sourceforge?
- RDeckard 11y agoProbably because it works, they have been using it in the past, and there is no reason to move off of it.
- toyg 11y agoUntil "sf-editor" comes around and hijacks their project... http://www.itworld.com/article/2927973/linux/is-sourceforge-hijacking-project-accounts.html http://www.itworld.com/article/2927973/linux/is-sourceforge-... SF is on life-support, it survives only thanks to shady tactics like this and "repackaging" popular installers with adware. If you have a project on SF and don't like github, move to Bitbucket or some other provider but please please move off SF for good.
- dave2000 11y agoTell the author of nmap that! And all the people who've left for github.
- DanBC 11y agoThere's a bunch of stuff still on SF. It's an un-met need for file hosting, support forums, and dev forums.
- ogurechny 11y agoTo anyone reading this: please don't use “alpha” and “beta” status as an excuse for not releasing source code, not updating documentation, and not making clear distinction between stable-beta, beta-beta, and soon-to-be-reverted-beta features for _months_. Thank you. For some time, it was a bit of pain in the ass to figure out 7zip status as it required collecting pieces of knowledge from multiple SourceForge forum threads.
- bitmapbrother 11y agoIt's a pity they don't have a native OSX version. I'm aware that options exist like Keka, but I prefer the interface of 7zip.
- cies 11y ago7zip has strong encryption built in. I found it to be the only very useful x-platform (using Keka on OSX) option when you non-power-users to encrypt some files with a passphrase (symmetric encryption). And it's opensource.
- LeoPanthera 11y agoIs <archiver of choice> + GPG really a big deal?
- dave2000 11y agoI find that only helps if you know anyone who uses gpg.
- daurnimator 11y agothere are literally dozens of us. dozens!
- cies 11y agoI honestly cannot ask non-power-users to go GPG... And why the extra step? Just a readily available, opensource archiver --7zip-- does the trick with simple symmetric encryption by passphrase.
- josteink 11y agoLooking at the changelog, I was amazed at how many disk-image formats 7zip supported and I newer knew. Especially the amount added recent months seemed impressive. So I checked my current version... And Ubuntu 16.10 ships version 9.20, which is from 2010. Yay. Edit: On further inspection, downloading the source from sourceforge and building it locally was a matter of minutes though. But that feels so utterly un-Ubuntu-ish.
- nikolay 11y agoYou mean "Ubuntu 15.10", I guess? I'm really tired of having to add dozens of PPAs in order to have a sane up-to-date Ubuntu environment. I can understand core packages, which are mostly on the server side to be conservative, but packages like 7zip and others should be updated more frequently.
- i336_ 11y agoOn the one hand I feel Arch is trying to redefine some kind of OS X-inspired "chic 1337" and is throwing UNIX history out the window to do so, and on the other hand the feedback cycle with Gentoo is slow enough I fear I'll constantly vacillate between "gah, just let it rebuild overnight" and "GAH THIS TIME MY FINGERS DON'T LEAVE ^C". What else is there that's sanely up-to-date out-of-the-box, doesn't have bizarre redistribution issues (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10613518 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10613518), and would appeal to someone who uses Slackware but wouldn't mind dependency resolution? I was already recommended FreeBSD and that's on the todo list.
- wizeman 11y agoHave you tried NixOS? I run the unstable channel, which is updated quite often. Don't be scared of the name "unstable", because it's really quite stable since the channel only updates when all tests pass. Also, it's trivial to go back to a previous configuration if the current one is broken (which is something that has practically never happened to me).
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- kijin 11y ago> 7-Zip now can extract ext3 and ext4 (Linux file system) images. > 7-Zip now can extract ext2 and multivolume VMDK images. > 7-Zip now can extract GPT images and single file QCOW2, VMDK, VDI images. These are seriously impressive features! I hope someone will build on top of them to improve ext4 support in Windows. The ability to extract files from VM images without actually firing up a VM or using other convoluted tools is also going to be very useful to me.
- Shorel 11y ago> I hope someone will build on top of them to improve ext4 support in Windows. Is not better to just improve this already working Windows driver: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/ ?
- toyg 11y agoUnless it can deal with snapshots, it's not particularly useful... but if it could, it would absolutely be yet-another-killer-feature for the gem that is 7zip.