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Don't forget the possibility that the reporting might be inaccurate. Did he shoot harmlessly in the air during a robbery, and then get 44 years for "attempted

by staunch 11y ago

Don't forget the possibility that the reporting might be inaccurate. Did he shoot harmlessly in the air during a robbery, and then get 44 years for "attempted murder" because he's black? Or did he leave a police officer in a coma for life after torturing him for days? Or did he get 8 years for attempted murder and then commit additional crimes while in prison? We don't have enough information to know.

erikpukinskis 11y ago
Are you suggesting that in addition to the shoplifting and the attempted murder that you suspect there might be an additional crime that is bad enough to justify the courts sending him to prison for the shoplifting? Or are you suggesting that the badness of the attempted murder might be such that the 44 years was inadequate and so the additional 8 months is acceptable as additional punishment for the attempted murder? Your wording is somewhat ambiguous. I can tell there are some scenarios that you believe are possible and which justify the additional sentence, but I'm not sure what exactly those scenarios are.
jlarocco 11y ago
Actually, I think we do have enough information to know. Read it again, paying attention to the dates and ages. The shop lifting offense occurred 8 years before the attempted murder. Tacking an extra 8 months onto a 44 year sentence, for a minor crime committed 8 years earlier is just vindictive.
- pbhjpbhj 11y ago
  Is it just not to punish one offender for a crime just because they committed additional crimes whilst nonetheless punishing another offender for that same crime? I don't think it's vindictive to have a fixed sentence for a crime, shop-lifting say, and apply that to all shop-lifters who are convicted regardless of any other crimes they may also have committed and been convicted for.
  - rorykoehler 11y ago
    Vindictive? Maybe not. Outrageously stupid and thoughtless? Definitely. What good is 8 months of prison for petty crime going to do after already serving 44 years? Prison is supposed to be more about rehabilitation than punishment. If he isn't rehabilitated in 44 years inside another 8 won't do much. In this case it's just a waste of tax payers money.

by staunch 11y ago

erikpukinskis 11y ago

Are you suggesting that in addition to the shoplifting and the attempted murder that you suspect there might be an additional crime that is bad enough to justify the courts sending him to prison for the shoplifting? Or are you suggesting that the badness of the attempted murder might be such that the 44 years was inadequate and so the additional 8 months is acceptable as additional punishment for the attempted murder? Your wording is somewhat ambiguous. I can tell there are some scenarios that you believe are possible and which justify the additional sentence, but I'm not sure what exactly those scenarios are.

jlarocco 11y ago

Actually, I think we do have enough information to know. Read it again, paying attention to the dates and ages. The shop lifting offense occurred 8 years before the attempted murder. Tacking an extra 8 months onto a 44 year sentence, for a minor crime committed 8 years earlier is just vindictive.

pbhjpbhj 11y ago
Is it just not to punish one offender for a crime just because they committed additional crimes whilst nonetheless punishing another offender for that same crime? I don't think it's vindictive to have a fixed sentence for a crime, shop-lifting say, and apply that to all shop-lifters who are convicted regardless of any other crimes they may also have committed and been convicted for.
- rorykoehler 11y ago
  Vindictive? Maybe not. Outrageously stupid and thoughtless? Definitely. What good is 8 months of prison for petty crime going to do after already serving 44 years? Prison is supposed to be more about rehabilitation than punishment. If he isn't rehabilitated in 44 years inside another 8 won't do much. In this case it's just a waste of tax payers money.