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It's definitely not GNU OSS. If that's your ideology, this is not going to appeal to you. IANAL, but my understanding of the license is that it's trying to buil

by sulam 11y ago

It's definitely not GNU OSS. If that's your ideology, this is not going to appeal to you. IANAL, but my understanding of the license is that it's trying to build a new economic model for OSS contributors. I'm pretty excited to see if it takes off, since I think OSS could use some new thinking in this area.

CCoffie 11y ago
Okay explain to how forking would work with this license. Forking a project is a huge part of creating a OSS community. Would licensing have to go to both parties? I don't see any explanation of how it would work for this license.
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- sqs 11y ago
  Sourcegraph CEO here. Fair Source is not an open-source license. It is intended to be an improvement over closed source (GitHub, Bitbucket, etc.) and open core (where many important bits are closed source). Fair Source is not intended to support forking and independent redistribution.
  - vitno 11y ago
    This doesn't sound like an improvement to me. It actually takes (just another) SaaS product, and makes it feel like it intentionally does a disservice to it's users.
  - e12e 11y ago
    AFAIK this is similar to how Microsoft licenses Windows: you get the product, and source is available on request (and an NDA [and perhaps only to select customers]). In this case the fee for source access is waived, and in place of an NDA is the spectre of patent and copyright lawsuits. But essentially the licence is similar, the pricing is different? Makes me a bit sad in the wake of MS liberating a lot of stuff lately, like Visual Studio. Of course not many other companies have the benefit of collecting an OS tax on hardware - I still think I'd prefer eg the AGPL to this.
yarrel 11y ago
"Open source until they want to charge you" is not Open Source.
dragonwriter 11y ago
> It's definitely not GNU OSS. "GNU OSS" is not a thing. GNU is a project of the Free Software Foundation (FSF), which publishes (and applies) the Free Software Definition. The Open Source Definition is created (and applied) by the Open Source Initiative (OSI). "GNU OSS" is kind of like "Catholic Protestantism".

by sulam 11y ago

CCoffie 11y ago

Okay explain to how forking would work with this license. Forking a project is a huge part of creating a OSS community. Would licensing have to go to both parties? I don't see any explanation of how it would work for this license.

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sqs 11y ago
Sourcegraph CEO here. Fair Source is not an open-source license. It is intended to be an improvement over closed source (GitHub, Bitbucket, etc.) and open core (where many important bits are closed source). Fair Source is not intended to support forking and independent redistribution.
- vitno 11y ago
  This doesn't sound like an improvement to me. It actually takes (just another) SaaS product, and makes it feel like it intentionally does a disservice to it's users.
- e12e 11y ago
  AFAIK this is similar to how Microsoft licenses Windows: you get the product, and source is available on request (and an NDA [and perhaps only to select customers]). In this case the fee for source access is waived, and in place of an NDA is the spectre of patent and copyright lawsuits. But essentially the licence is similar, the pricing is different? Makes me a bit sad in the wake of MS liberating a lot of stuff lately, like Visual Studio. Of course not many other companies have the benefit of collecting an OS tax on hardware - I still think I'd prefer eg the AGPL to this.

yarrel 11y ago

"Open source until they want to charge you" is not Open Source.

dragonwriter 11y ago

> It's definitely not GNU OSS. "GNU OSS" is not a thing. GNU is a project of the Free Software Foundation (FSF), which publishes (and applies) the Free Software Definition. The Open Source Definition is created (and applied) by the Open Source Initiative (OSI). "GNU OSS" is kind of like "Catholic Protestantism".