8 ms·

> When the United States wielded power over corporations in the postwar era, our overarching goal was — with some notable exceptions — stability, peace, and pro

> When the United States wielded power over corporations in the postwar era, our overarching goal was — with some notable exceptions — stability, peace, and prosperity. When China wields its power over foreign corporations, the ultimate goal is — always — command and control. What a load of propagandistic garbage. Stability, peace, and prosperity for everyone the US government liked at the terrible, terrible expense of everyone else. It's insulting to my sensibilities. I honestly cannot figure out where to start in dismantling this pile of garbage. How about all of the coups sponsored by the United States to remove threats to the hegemony of U.S. corporations? It's a fun exercise to count them.

snickerdoodles 11y ago
How about the tens of millions killed by the Red Chinese. You sir, do not make lot of sense here.
danielrhodes 11y ago
At least in terms of the US maintaining its power, that strategy was apparently more effective than the current strategy now.
adventured 11y ago
> How about all of the coups sponsored by the United States to remove threats to the hegemony of U.S. corporations? It's a fun exercise to count them. Ok, count them for me. Are you going to say Vietnam? That was France asking the US to get involved to save its colonial possession. Are you going to say Iran? That was the UK asking the US to get involved. Turns out it's an extraordinarily short list.
- user_0001 11y ago
  You are correct that global political manoeuvring is rarely a straight forward case of just one country involved. Countries come together when it suits them and oppose each other just as readily. The US does sometimes come under unfair criticism for being the cause of all evil, when the reality is a lot more nuanced, but when you are sitting on top the pile, everyone is gunning for you. However, as the parent comment pointed out, the US has been "involved" in many coups / destabilising existing governments. Do you think the US would help out in French / British coups if it wasn't in their interest?
- danharaj 11y ago
  Really??? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_regime_change_actions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_r... This article does not even begin to cover coups agitated by US capitalists without the help of the government (like Hawaii).

snickerdoodles 11y ago

How about the tens of millions killed by the Red Chinese. You sir, do not make lot of sense here.

danielrhodes 11y ago

At least in terms of the US maintaining its power, that strategy was apparently more effective than the current strategy now.

adventured 11y ago

> How about all of the coups sponsored by the United States to remove threats to the hegemony of U.S. corporations? It's a fun exercise to count them. Ok, count them for me. Are you going to say Vietnam? That was France asking the US to get involved to save its colonial possession. Are you going to say Iran? That was the UK asking the US to get involved. Turns out it's an extraordinarily short list.

user_0001 11y ago
You are correct that global political manoeuvring is rarely a straight forward case of just one country involved. Countries come together when it suits them and oppose each other just as readily. The US does sometimes come under unfair criticism for being the cause of all evil, when the reality is a lot more nuanced, but when you are sitting on top the pile, everyone is gunning for you. However, as the parent comment pointed out, the US has been "involved" in many coups / destabilising existing governments. Do you think the US would help out in French / British coups if it wasn't in their interest?
danharaj 11y ago
Really??? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_regime_change_actions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_r... This article does not even begin to cover coups agitated by US capitalists without the help of the government (like Hawaii).