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HangoverApp – Share pics without Internet, only visible if all devices present
- fiatjaf 11y agoThe idea of requiring people to be on the same physical location is really nice. It could be used by a more useful app.
- jlebar 11y ago> Download HangoverApp and register with your mobile phone number. (It’s secure and anonymous!). (Emphasis mine) lolwut?
- campbellsoup 11y agoIt's explained in their FAQ: the only information they ask from you to register is your phone number.
- tedunangst 11y agoYeah, I think the person quoting the FAQ has found the FAQ. Good thing there's no way for someone to trace my phone number back to me.
- hellbanner 11y agoAre there any free emails that work without requiring a cell #?
- CyberDildonics 11y agoIs this a serious question? Guerilla Mail for one.
- joeyspn 11y agoSure, and if the provider insists and you don't want, just provide a fake tel number...
- tomschlick 11y agoThey call/text to confirm.
- joeyspn 11y agoMeet the online SMS receivers... http://www.receive-sms-online.info/ http://www.receive-sms-online.info/
- hellbanner 11y agoSee the reply - have you tried? You need a phone number to get an email and you need a drivers license to get a phone number...
- kuschku 11y agoweb.de’s freemail, same with gmx’s freemail.
- mortehu 11y agoUnless something has changed recently, Gmail in some (most?) countries outside of US.
- e12e 11y agoLike: http://www.anonymbox.com/ http://www.anonymbox.com/ ?
- username223 11y agoDo any free emails require a cell number? In my experience they pester you for it regularly, but continue to work fine without.
- tdkl 11y agoWell now we know how they make money.
- evan_ 11y agoThey claim to protect against screenshotting- is that possible? I was under the impression that it was not something app developers were able to prevent.
- somabc 11y agoI know that Signal (formerly Textsecure) won't let you take a screenshot of any text messages.
- mayneack 11y agoThat's android.
- will_pseudonym 11y agoExcept that it can't prevent you from taking a picture of that phone!! It's security through inconvenience!
- juandazapata 11y agoNo technology prevents a 3rd phone from taking a picture of the screen of a different phone.
- astrange 11y agoYou could try blinking different parts of the image on and off really fast.
- alexbecker 11y agoVideo then. You can't defeat the analog hole.
- joshyeager 11y agoI actually tried that for a contract project about 10 years ago. It didn't work. If you blink slower than 20 times per second it's really annoying to the user. And if you blink faster than 10 times per second it's pretty easy to take a picture with a long exposure and get the whole image. So there is no blink speed that offers even marginal protection without making the image useless.
- black_puppydog 11y agoIf you don't trust the other end of the communications, just don't hit send... Anything else is BS.
- billmalarky 11y agoI think it's a neat concept that could be flushed out a bit. Maybe instead of pitching it as a way to take control of potentially embarrassing media, pitch as an excuse to get the group back together again. I'd love to see more social apps that encourage, well people being social.
- EGreg 11y agoYou mean like the app Groups? :-)
- ada1981 11y agoI don't hate the app really.. I just kinda hate the culture that produces this app. Am I just getting old?
- orthoganol 11y agoTo be clear, the culture that's producing this app is people trying every permutation possible for app ideas, throwing them out with cliche landing pages, and marketing them on channels like this or Reddit or Product Hunt. I think there is a 0% chance that the creator is actually a partier who needed this and so he built it.
- fiatjaf 11y agoThe two cultures are terrible.
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- madeofpalk 11y agoThe cultures that try and experiment with different ideas? Rather than spending 18 months building and 'perfecting' and idea in private then releasing it to real people, doesn't it seem more efficient to Throw 10 ideas/'micro mvps' at the wall and see what sticks? Seems fairly solid to me.
- will_pseudonym 11y agoThey're satisfied with creating apps for problems no one is really experiencing en masse. I mean it's neat that they're building these things, but I'm driven by problems I encounter that can be solved by software or education. We're just very different yet similar people.
- username223 11y agoUgh. "Throw feces at the wall and see if it sticks" is the culture that gave us post-a-day blog spam instead of sporadic thoughtful writing, and github spammers pushing out whatever half-done garbage they typed in on a manic Saturday to be abandoned by Monday. As the saying goes, "there's a reason you have two ears but only one mouth."
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- johnmorrow 11y agoAnyone else wondering why you don't just physically show ppl the pictures if you are in the same location as them?
- andreasvc 11y agoThe idea is that you can only access the pictures if everyone of the group is physically present. Sort of how multiple people need to turn a key at the same time to launch a nuclear missile.
- glibgil 11y agoWe understand the idea. The only usage we can imagine, sharing a private photo, seems way harder in this app than just passing someone your phone.
- bottled_poe 11y agoIt seems like you don't understand the idea. This ensures that all parties consent to the content being viewed by any other party.
- tedunangst 11y agoDoes installing this app somehow disable the regular camera app? Not sure how it ensures anything. Joe takes a picture. I want to see it. But, oops, Billy isn't here to complete the nuclear launch procedure. So I turn to Joe and say "hey, text me that funny picture of Billy." What happens next?
- Shank 11y agoEveryone has to be in the same place? I can just hand my phone to someone else and let them see something, no data exchange or app required. Alternatively, the discussion below seems to point out that screenshot blocking is ineffective. If all devices are in the same room, a swift punch to the mouth and taking someone else's device could remove that possibility. It cuts both ways.
- ed209 11y agothe point is that you have to be together to unlock the photos. It's not that you're sharing photos locally, as seems to be your issue with the app.
- such_a_casual 11y ago>If all devices are in the same room, a swift punch to the mouth and taking someone else's device could remove that possibility. This assumes that you are aware that the screenshot was taken.
- shurcooL 11y agoCan someone give examples of how this app could/would be used? In what kind of situations, and what the benefit of using it would be.
- will_pseudonym 11y agoIn what world do these people have phones but no access to the Internet? Like why is that the first piece of information about the app? No one uses their devices like that! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!
- kevindeasis 11y agobut, what happens if one of the devices are lost? how about if all the users are present via authentication and are close to each other via bluetooth or geolocation?
- dizzyviolet 11y agoAre you authenticating by using the Wifi and Bluetooth addresses for input? What would stop someone from spoofing the known devices if so? Just wondering about the setup.
- DStavro 11y ago“If your startup failed, it’s because it didn’t solve a tier 1 problem for a large enough audience" - Mitchell Harper. I'm having trouble understanding what problem this solves. I'd also love to know what the triggers are for people to use this app. Also hangover... the name entails a totally different kind of application. Good luck! If i were you I would take time to talk with your target market to validate your idea.
- ionforce 11y agoIt's like a security mechanism for spicy material. What stays in Vegas (defined as a group of individuals) does a better job of staying in Vegas if collocation is a requirement.
- siliconc0w 11y agoAnother angle is a groupon type service. Do something fun together, get a coupon for food/drink/another fun activity that unlocks when all members on the group reunite in a month. Create mechanism for 'chaining' to encourage stickiness. People get slight push to maintain friendships they might let otherwise let slip away.
- DStavro 11y agoSure, I see what you're saying ionforce, and thanks for the clarification. I still don't see the point...Hangover only works when you 1. go to the same place with 2. the same people, and 3.you want to lock content with those people I ask how often does this use case occur? What do you think ionforce?
- michaelbuckbee 11y agoI'm pretty sure the "Hangover" reference is to the series of (NSFW) still photos that played over the credits at the end of the first Hangover movie. Where they state "we're just going to look through these one time." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBuwZEMMAOM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBuwZEMMAOM (NSFW)
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- guelo 11y agoDoubt they got trademark permission from Warner Brothers.
- tantalic 11y agoHere's a similar concept for more general secrets (although could be used with pictures) that might be easier for the HN community to "get": Core Secret https://appsto.re/us/MVFMP.i https://appsto.re/us/MVFMP.i , http://cryptorobots.com/coresecret/documentation.en.html http://cryptorobots.com/coresecret/documentation.en.html.