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Or people just need to put the phone down before going to sleep. Every non-infantile responsible adult is capable of that. How hard can it be ?

by tdkl 11y ago

mahouse 11y ago
You did not read the article... It's not about putting down the phone, it's about the light it emits.
- skrebbel 11y ago
  Maybe he did. The blue tones are no problem if you simply don't look at the damn thing all evening.
  - walterbell 11y ago
    Or if you install software to control color temperature.
skrebbel 11y ago
Super hard, and you know it. Plenty people's willpower is basically depleted by night time. My own little lifehack here is that my phone stays downstairs, in the charger, when I go to bed. I use an old phone without wifi or SIM to act as a simple, programmable, non-annoying alarm clock. It means that by the time I'm down, I don't need to resist to urge to just check HN one more time.
tasqa 11y ago
As other said it is not necessarily about the using the phone it's about the light emitted from screens of all our devices. T he issue also applies to using other screens at night. Like watching TV right until you go to bed, or even in bed. I guess using your phone in bed to set an alarm and whatnot is a more common case and thus is used as the example.
- dexterdog 11y ago
  Do people not put their phones face-down in the night table?
  - Anechoic 11y ago
    I used to, but as of iOS 9, "hey Siri" no longer works when an iPhone is face down so now it stays face up at night.
mortenjorck 11y ago
Implicit in your comment is the idea that no one should ever have any legitimate reason to use a mobile device before going to bed. While I have no doubt many users have to check Facebook one more time or some other compulsive behavior that you imagine, there are users who need to set an alarm for the morning, check what they have to do tomorrow, or even check up on some mission-critical status for work. Some adults use their phones before going to sleep in order to be non-infantile and responsible.
Steuard 11y ago
I sometimes like to read a book before going to sleep: it's always been a nice, calming activity for me. I also sometimes read books on my phone, and I think that's probably going to become more common (for me and in general) over time. Which of those is the "infantile, irresponsible" part?
drdaeman 11y ago
Oh, sure. But how about infantile and/or irresponsible ones? I heard there are a lot of us here... ;)
Dylan16807 11y ago
It's not a matter of putting the phone down "before" sleep. That's easy. It's a matter of putting away all screens a full two hours before you want to sleep. That is an enormous pain, no matter how easy it is. And it's so easy to fix.

Or people just need to put the phone down before going to sleep. Every non-infantile responsible adult is capable of that. How hard can it be ?

by tdkl 11y ago

Or people just need to put the phone down before going to sleep. Every non-infantile responsible adult is capable of that. How hard can it be ?

mahouse 11y ago

You did not read the article... It's not about putting down the phone, it's about the light it emits.

skrebbel 11y ago
Maybe he did. The blue tones are no problem if you simply don't look at the damn thing all evening.
- walterbell 11y ago
  Or if you install software to control color temperature.

skrebbel 11y ago

Super hard, and you know it. Plenty people's willpower is basically depleted by night time. My own little lifehack here is that my phone stays downstairs, in the charger, when I go to bed. I use an old phone without wifi or SIM to act as a simple, programmable, non-annoying alarm clock. It means that by the time I'm down, I don't need to resist to urge to just check HN one more time.

tasqa 11y ago

As other said it is not necessarily about the using the phone it's about the light emitted from screens of all our devices. T he issue also applies to using other screens at night. Like watching TV right until you go to bed, or even in bed. I guess using your phone in bed to set an alarm and whatnot is a more common case and thus is used as the example.

dexterdog 11y ago
Do people not put their phones face-down in the night table?
- Anechoic 11y ago
  I used to, but as of iOS 9, "hey Siri" no longer works when an iPhone is face down so now it stays face up at night.

mortenjorck 11y ago

Implicit in your comment is the idea that no one should ever have any legitimate reason to use a mobile device before going to bed. While I have no doubt many users have to check Facebook one more time or some other compulsive behavior that you imagine, there are users who need to set an alarm for the morning, check what they have to do tomorrow, or even check up on some mission-critical status for work. Some adults use their phones before going to sleep in order to be non-infantile and responsible.

Steuard 11y ago

I sometimes like to read a book before going to sleep: it's always been a nice, calming activity for me. I also sometimes read books on my phone, and I think that's probably going to become more common (for me and in general) over time. Which of those is the "infantile, irresponsible" part?

drdaeman 11y ago

Oh, sure. But how about infantile and/or irresponsible ones? I heard there are a lot of us here... ;)

Dylan16807 11y ago

It's not a matter of putting the phone down "before" sleep. That's easy. It's a matter of putting away all screens a full two hours before you want to sleep. That is an enormous pain, no matter how easy it is. And it's so easy to fix.